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How to apply for a Canadian Working Holiday Visa 2015 (Step by Step IEC guide)

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Aged between 18-30 and want to go live and work in Canada for a year (or two)? The program to fulfill your dreams is called International Experience Canada (IEC) working holiday program and it provides a one (or two!) year work permit available for citizens  aged 18-30 of participating countries. In some countries, the age limit is 35 and the length of the work permit 24 months. With the IEC working holiday program, you can work and travel anywhere in Canada without a job lined up in advance.

Check out my 2016 guide here, posted Nov 12th 2015

For British citizens, the IEC working program provides a 24 month work permit available before the age of 31. For the last four years, the IEC program has opened between December-April. There has not been an identifiable pattern to the opening dates.

The Working Holiday category opened to citizens of the United Kingdom on March 12, 2015. Round 1 opened on Thursday March 12th at 2pm GMT (10am EST – Ottawa time) with a quota of 2,500. Round 2 opened April 7th 2015 at 3pm London time (GMT+1) with 2,500 places available.

This guide was intended to help British applicants prepare for the 2015 IEC working holiday application cycle. For more information on going on a working holiday in Canada, consider purchasing my 99 page eBook – ‘The Ultimate Guide to a Working Holiday in Canada’

The IEC application is made up of two stages – an initial eligibility screening and then the actual work permit application. Note that this is probably not the official explanation but that is my interpretation (2 x IEC participant, now Permanent Resident through common law sponsorship).

Places are allocated via an online first-come, first-serve process. You will need to move very quickly for the first two parts of Stage One, less so (but still with some haste!) for the other sections. First, check you are eligible to take part in the program. If so, read on for more info about the IEC application process.

north bc winter 2015RECENT UPDATES: 

September 30th – It is (almost) all over for the 2015 program! New deadlines have been added to the IEC homepage. October 9th is the last day to submit a Kompass application (waiting list or otherwise) and is also the last day that invitations to apply will be sent to people on waiting lists. November 17th is the last day for submitting MyCIC applications (with valid CAL) in Stage 2. After this, it’s a waiting game for the 2016 program to open.

April 24th – CIC have changed their requirements for police certificates. 

“For the country you currently live in, the police certificate must be issued no more than six months before you apply.

For countries where you have lived for six months or more, the police certificate must be issued after the last time you lived in that country.”

And another quick update re: New Zealand police certificates. For whatever reason, CIC are being very finicky regarding the Consent for Disclosure forms. Despite not updating the relevant section of this website, it appears they want people to get the Ministry of Justice cert instead this year. From this point, I would recommend getting this one instead.

April 11th – The UK IEC program was limited to two rounds (March 12th, April 7th) and a reduced number of 5,000 places in 2015. Round 2 places went in just 2 minutes. There is a 5,000 place waiting list operating.

April 1st - Round 2 of the UK allocation will open April 7th (no April fool!) at 3pm London time (GMT+1)

March 13thImportant update for British applicants and others applying for a British police check. ACPO now accepts online applications! For paper applications, new forms are needed – from March 11 only forms Version 20 or higher will be accepted. 

March 12th - The 2500 places in round 1 were snapped up in 12 minutes. Congrats to anyone who made it in! If you didn’t finish your application before the quota went, don’t panic, you will be able to submit in round 2. Keep your eyes on the IEC website for the announcement of round 2’s opening. Based on previous years, it is likely to be sometime in the next week.

March 9th - The UK program will open March 12th 2015 at 2pm GMT, 10am EST (round 1/3, based on the last two years). Last year’s UK rounds were 12th Dec, 17th Dec and 21st Jan.

March 7th – Updated FAQ section re: new 24 month work permit for British applicants and what this means for previous participants.

March 4th - Ireland’s International Co-op and Young Professionals opens March 5th at 10am Ottawa EST. Irish applicants wanting to apply for the Working Holiday program are able to sign up for Kompass at this point (see FAQ section for more)

February 24th – IEC season is officially upon us as per this CIC notice! Croatia opened today and other country’s programs will follow in the coming days.

Afternoon update – CAL is now valid for 14 days in Stage 2 according to new application guide and PDF diagram (see bottom of post).

February 12th – According to this CIC notice, it appears that IEC work permits will be subject to an additional $100 fee on top of the standard processing fee.

February 4th – A CIC bilateral agreement document dated Jan 30th seems to suggest that the IEC program for British citizens will now offer one 24 month work permit rather than the current 2 x one year work permit system. 

January 23rd - The new CIC issued cartoon diagram of the IEC process (see bottom of page) indicates that applicants will only have 7 days from receiving a CAL to open a MyCIC account AND upload all required documents. See MyCIC section for more info. Updated to 14 days 24th February.

January 21st – The IEC website was updated stating ‘The International Experience Canada (IEC) 2015 season will not open before mid-February 2015.’

FAQ – What can I do to prepare for the program opening?

Gather all of the information required for the first two steps of Stage One e.g. Kompass password which fits criteria, passport info etc.

Have your UK ACPO police certificate application ready (plus any other police certs you may need, read on for more info)

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How to apply for the IEC

There are two stages of the IEC process:

Stage One:

Create Kompass account

Apply for Conditional Acceptance Letter (CAL) to participate in IEC

Payment

Upload Required Documents

Conditional Acceptance Letter

Stage Two:

Apply for work permit via MyCIC

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Apologies for the crude diagram, but I thought it may help as a quick visual reference

Stage One – Create Kompass account

As soon as the program opens, create a Kompass account. A Kompass account enables you to apply for the IEC. If you open a Kompass account before the program opens, it will not be valid. Even if you have participated in IEC before, you will still need a new Kompass account for 2015.

Opening a Kompass account is straightforward; you will need to enter (as per 2014):

Family name (matching passport)
Given name(s) (matching passport)
Date of birth (yyyy-mm-dd format in 2014)
Citizenship
Personal Email Address
Confirm Email Address
Password: 8-12 characters, case sensitive, at least one uppercase letter A-Z, at least one lowercase letter a-z, at least one number 0-9, at least one character ! @ # $ % ? & * ( ) ^ 
Confirm Password

Then create security questions

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security questions (3)After the account has been created, you will receive an activation email. Have your email account open ready as you create your Kompass account.

If you are having trouble logging in to your new account, make sure the Kompass account has been activated via email (see last point) and you are using the Kompass login page for your country of citizenship as each log-in page is unique. There is a ‘forgot my password’ option if neither of these options work.

For Internet Explorer users with browser loading or time-out issues –

1.Select Select Tools, then Internet Options, then Advanced (tab).
2.Make sure that the “Use SSL 3.0″ box is selected.
3.Click “Apply”. Restart the browser.

Try using a different browser (Chrome, Firefox etc) if you’re experiencing issues. If you have access to one, a  second computer/laptop is also handy for back-up.

A great tip – record both your Kompass and MyCIC (the latter you will create later in the process) logins, passwords and security questions/answers somewhere so you do not get them mixed up or have problems logging in at a critical time.

Apply for Conditional Acceptance Letter

Once logged in to your brand new Kompass account, you’re ready to apply for your CAL. To be able to secure yourself a place in the 2015 quota you must apply for the CAL straight after creating your Kompass account.

During this stage, this information will be required:

Your personal details – Full name, date of birth (yyyy-mm-dd), sex, citizenship, place of birth (town/city), country of birth and marital status

Passport details – Passport number (top right of passport page), expiry date (in 2014 this was formatted yyyy-mm-dd).

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Contact details – Home address, mailing address if different to street address, email address (twice), telephone number (main/alternate, latter not required)

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Current/previous participation in IEC information – This is very straightforward if this is your first IEC. Otherwise, have your WTN number OR the year you entered Canada as well as the month/year of application on previous IEC (applicants have been asked for one or the other in previous programs)

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IEC category – Select Working Holiday to confirm which program you are applying for (there are also Young Professionals and Internship programs under the IEC category)

Privacy and declarations – Tick to declare you have read and understood the terms and conditions of the IEC and the Canadian government’s privacy policies

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Make sure you answer all required questions. The order to input information may be different from how I have listed it above.

Your name and passport details must be entered as they appear in your passport unless otherwise a specific format is asked for. It is essential to complete this application as fast but as accurately as you can. Mispellings or misinformation may risk your participation in the program.

At the end of each page select ‘complete’ not ‘save’ when finished. If ‘save’ is selected, you’ll have to go back in again and re-select ‘complete.’

The application can only be submitted when the program is open. Only press ‘submit’ once when finished. If click submit again, your page will reload and your place in the queue will be lost.

After your application is sent, a confirmation will appear on the page, with your WTN (World Tracking Number) listed. This is unique to your application. If the number is below the quota (e.g. this year, below 5350), you fulfill the eligibility requirements and all of your submitted information was accurately entered then you are well on your way to your CAL! The WTN will also be sent in a message to your Kompass account, titled ‘Notice of Submission.’

If you have made any mistakes such as typos in your application, contact CIC as soon as you can via Kompass’s ‘MyMessages’ and explain the error(s). If you don’t tell them, you may be disqualified.

red-is-not-open-iec kompass 2If you see the above message during the first round, don’t panic. You will have another chance in the next round to continue your application and submit.

IEC Payment

Within 48 hours of submitting your application, you will receive a ‘Notice of Receipt’ message through Kompass. This will tell you whether you have a place in the quota or are on a waiting list. If you’re lucky enough to be included in the former, you will be instructed to pay the participation fee.

SIDE NOTE – This is the best time to apply for your UK ACPO police certificate. The Standard service is 10 days, so consider holding off on your IEC payment for a couple of days.  Allowing yourself some leeway here will help you in Stage Two. If you decide to apply for it after payment, there is some time but it is tight. The Express Service, as the name suggests, is super fast if you have the £ for it. If you plan to work with children or in the health services in Canada this also is the time to make an appointment for a mandatory medical exam. The exam must be performed by a qualified panel physician (the CIC has a list), not your own GP. 

Follow the instructions given on Kompass, found below ‘Application Status.’ The easiest way to pay is online, via credit or debit card. In 2014, the fee was $150. You have ten days to pay the fee after you receive the Notice of Receipt.

Required Documents

For the final part of Stage One, you will need to upload two required documents to Kompass, also within ten days of receiving the Notice of Receipt.

A scanned or electronic copy of your up-to-date CV, in resume style (follow format at bottom of page here)

A scanned copy of the photo page of your passport (make sure this is legible, there is no ‘second chance’ if refused)

It is possible you may be asked for further documentation, depending on your circumstances.

Conditional Acceptance Letter

Within 48 hours of sending payment plus the two required documents you will receive another ‘Notice of Receipt’ in your Kompass inbox. Your application will now be processed. Time to wait! It may take up to 14 days to receive either the Conditional Acceptance Letter or a refusal through Kompass.

At this point, the new 2015 graphic (posted at the end of this guide) states that you should use CIC’s Come to Canada’ wizard to create a checklist of documents you will need to upload in Stage Two, while waiting for your CAL to come through. This will help you get prepared for the next stage. If you haven’t already, apply for your UK ACPO police certificate.

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Stage Two – Apply for a work permit via MyCIC

Receiving a Conditional Acceptance Letter means you’re almost there. Hopefully you have already sent off for your UK ACPO police certificate and any other police certificates you may need (for anywhere else you have lived for over 6 months after the age of 18 with the exception of Canada) - if not, you need to apply ASAP. If you plan to work with children or in the health services in Canada you should have already booked yourself (and possibly even completed) a medical.

You will have 14 days from receiving your CAL to create a MyCIC account, complete a work permit application, upload the CAL letter and all other required documents.

In 2014, applicants were given 90 days to complete the work permit application and upload additional documents through MyCIC. For the 2015 program, the time limit has been drastically reduced to 14 days. Until 24th February, this was listed as 7 days. It has now been extended to 14, which is more do-able. 

If you do not have the required documents within the time you need to submit them (police checks, medical proof if applicable) you can upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ (self-created) to explain why. Upload as much as you can and provide as much proof as you can regarding the missing documentation. 

Here’s how Stage Two works.

Use CIC’s Come to Canada’ wizard to create a checklist of documents you will need to upload if you haven’t already. This checklist will also provide you with a code to enter while applying for the work permit through MyCIC. The checklist of documents will look something like this –

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MyCIC will guide you through the process to upload your documents and download the required forms. If stuck, use this guide for reference. (And yes, the ‘Application for a work permit outside of Canada’ form must still be filled in even if you are currently IN Canada)

There is also a new $100 Open Work Permit Holder fee that needs to be paid in this section. This is required in addition to the $150 fee in Stage 1. 

As always, fill in all form fields

If a question does not relate to you, enter ‘n/a’ or ‘not applicable.’

The little ‘i’s on CIC’s website are useful!

They offer help and assistance (as in above picture) if you click on them

Combine multiple documents in a category

If you have more than one document for a category (i.e. two police certs) combine documents into a multi-page PDF using a converter like this.

Answer as truthfully and completely as you can

If there is not enough space in a field to you to fully answer the question, upload an additional Word document with more information.

Your passport scans

These must include the photo page as well as any page with stamps or markings.

You do not need to have a job lined up for the IEC

Don’t worry about including any planned employment (even if you do have a job lined up!) You can live or work anywhere in Canada for a year so enter ‘unknown’ or ‘n/a’ in all ‘intended job/work’ related fields.

Police certificates must be dated within the last three months. UPDATE APRIL 24th (see top of page)

A UK ACPO police certificate is required as well as one for any country you have lived in for 6 months or longer since the age of 18. The one exception is Canada, as they can usually perform their own police checks (but it isn’t unheard of to be contacted for one which can be tricky if you are back in the UK). Be prepared for some police certificates (e.g. the USA) to take a long time – if this relates to you, research and consider applying for the certificate before the program opens.

If you plan to work with children or in health care

You will need to get a medical exam at this stage. Read more information on the CIC website here. (See FAQs for common medical exam related questions)

Before submitting

Make sure you have uploaded each document in the right category. You may be refused for simply having the documents in the wrong place.

Don’t leave it until the last minute to submit

Although you have 14 days to submit the documents before your CAL expires, do not wait to submit until the 14th day. Anything can happen – computer failure, sever issues…both at your end and with CIC. Don’t risk it! If you don’t have a document (e.g. police cert) by the time you need to upload it, submit a ‘Letter of Explanation’ instead. Don’t wait around too long.

Once you have submitted your documents…

…you’re almost home free! It is waiting time again.

Keep in mind that CIC may contact you and request more documentation, depending on your circumstances. This does not necessary mean you will not get your IEC work permit, but it will prolong the process.

CIC states that you should receive an assessment within 42 days. If successful, you will find a Port of Entry Letter of Introduction (LoI) in your MyCIC inbox. Congratulations!

A tip here – SAVE your LoI onto your computer and then print it out. Don’t let your only copy of it be an online version. You never know when websites are going to be down for maintenance or have other technical issues! The same goes for your CAL in stage one.

Print your Port of Entry Letter of Introduction and take it to Canada along with your proof of $2,500 in funds (a printed bank statement) and travel/backpackers insurance covering the length of your trip (True Traveller covers working holidays including those 24 months in length!) and you should receive your IEC work permit in your passport.

More information about arriving in Canada, proof of funds and insurance can be found in my ‘Descriptive Guide to A Working Holiday in Canada.’

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International Experience Canada (IEC) FAQs

  • When will the IEC program open?

As of February 24th, the IEC season is open. Each country’s individual programs and categories (working holiday, International Co-Op, Young Professionals) will now open one by one. Before the season opened, IEC claimed applicants would receive 72 hours notice of the date on the website and on their Twitter. Croatia’s working holiday program however opened at 11.50am Ottawa time on February 24th with little notice.

  • You mean the IEC program may just open without notice? How will I know when it opens?!

Keep an eye on the IEC website and join the various IEC Facebook groups. Pro tip from fellow IEC veteran Joe (also now a Permanent Resident!) over at morehawes - consider using Change Detection to automatically notify you when the IEC page is updated, though I’m not sure what kind of delay it has. I am trying to keep this guide as updated as I can, but I am only human after all. I also only update regarding the British IEC working holiday program.

  • What time will the program open?

With no news regarding the scheduled opening dates, no-one knows. Round 1 for the 2015 UK program opened at 2pm GMT (10am Ottawa time with daylight savings)

  • Can I open a Kompass or MyCIC account before the program opens?

You can open a Kompass account but there is no reason or benefit to doing so with one exception*. You will have to open another one later since everyone (including people applying for the 2nd time) must create a brand new Kompass account when the 2015 program opens. Continue reading for more info regarding opening a MyCIC account. *The one exception is for citizens from countries with more than one IEC category, see question below.

  • I’m from a country that has more than one IEC program. Can I open a Kompass account before my preferred program opens? 

Yes. Citizens of countries such as Ireland with more than one IEC category (Young Professionals, working holiday, International Co-op) are able to open a Kompass account and fill out the majority of the CAL application when one of their country’s categories opens. They will then have to wait to complete the ‘IEC category’ and submit when the Working Holiday program opens. This sadly does not apply to British applicants due to there only being one category (working holiday).

  • When should I get a UK ACPO police certificate?

The best time would be once you have been asked for payment in the third step of Stage One. At this point you have a WTN number and a work permit potentially ‘reserved.’ An ACPO certificate takes around 10 days to process, but a premium service is available. Prepare the police certificate documents (signed photos, forms) in advance. If money is not a concern by all means apply for the ACPO ahead of time.

  • What kind of UK police certificate do I need?

The certificate must be ACPO, from the ACRO. A CRB check is invalid.

  • I’m currently in Canada on my first IEC – do I need a Canadian police certificate?

Not unless specifically asked by CIC.

  • I’m currently in Canada on my first IEC – is the process the same?

Yes. Despite having been in Canada for potentially the last year, you will still need to apply the same way as if you were in the UK. This includes applying for an ACPO police certificate. This can be tricky since the ACPO requires signed photos from a professional who has known you for more than two years. The address on the police certificate should be your Canadian one.

  • I have participated in IEC recently twice before. Now that there is a new 24 month work permit available for British citizens, can I apply again? 

No. Only new applicants and those who have previous participated once are eligible for the 24 month IEC work permit (working holiday program). As per the British IEC page –

“If you participated in IEC before 2015 for a period of up to 12 months, you are eligible for a second participation of up to 24 months. Those who participated in IEC more than once before 2015 are no longer eligible to apply.”

  • How about if I went on two working holidays to Canada with BUNAC pre-2011 (or one with BUNAC and one direct with IEC after 2011), would I be eligible? I thought the record was ‘wiped’ in 2011 and participation through BUNAC didn’t count.

Sadly, no, you would not be eligible. IEC seems to have done a bit of a reverse move and now say that ALL participations (BUNAC or not) count towards the total. There has been much confusion regarding this, especially since participation through SWAP, a partner organisation of BUNAC, apparently does not count since it is a recognised organisation.

I’ve had a couple of readers email me with information from IEC/CIC regarding this (thank you!) The following excerpt from an email from IEC/CIC provides the definitive line on this:

“BUNAC is not a recognized organization with CIC, therefore any past participations under BUNAC count towards frequency of participation for IEC. There is a new rule this year where any past participation under IEC (regardless of the year), count towards frequency of participation for IEC.
Therefore as per our website: if you participated in IEC before 2015 for a period of up to 12 months, you are eligible for a second participation of up to 24 months. Those who participated in IEC more than once before 2015 are no longer eligible to apply.”
  • Do I have to get a new police certificate?

As per CIC rules, police certificates must be less than three months old when submitted. Even if you have not been to your home country recently, you still must have an up to date police certificate.

  • Should I use BUNAC?

BUNAC, and other working holiday companies, cannot guarantee you a place on the IEC program, so look carefully into what exactly you are paying for. It may be your first time travelling or living abroad, but there is a lot of information already available about working holidays online plus a range of different forum websites (including Facebook) on which you can gather advice and possibly meet others in the same situation.

  • Do I need proof of $2500 in funds when I apply?

No. You only need proof of $2500 in funds on arrival in Canada.

  • Do I need proof of insurance when I apply?

No. You only need proof of insurance on arrival in Canada.

  • Do I need a medical?

Only if you plan to work in specific fields ‘where public health must be protected’ i.e. schools, nurseries, nursing homes etc. The medical MUST be performed by a panel physician from the CIC’s approved list. There are panel physicians located around the world so if you are currently out of the UK do not panic. Find all of the information regarding medicals on the CIC website here. 

  • What if I decide I want to work with children or in the health services when I’m actually in Canada? I don’t want to get one before I go. 

If you change your mind once in Canada, you can get your work permit changed to allow you to work with children or in the health services. Find a panel physician, have the medical exam performed and then visit a border (the airport won’t work) with the proof of your exam to get your work permit updated.

  • Am I allowed to apply using two passports? I am from Northern Ireland and hold both Irish and British passports. 

Yes, if you are eligible you are allowed to apply to both quotas though you must apply as if both application is your only application. Do not reference that you are applying for another quota under the ‘previous participation’ sections of the IEC application (stage one). If you are successful and receive a Port of Entry Letter of Introduction (end of Stage two), you should declare it at this stage via a message in your Kompass account even if you have not received a second LoI yet.

  • I made a small mistake in entering my details in the CAL application, what do I do?

The following infomation was provided in 2015 after submitting the CAL application –

Do not withdraw your application if: You have made an error and there is a minor discrepancy in your application and your documents (for example: reversing your first and last names, or a digit or number off for your date of birth or passport number). Instead please contact IEC through “My Messages” in Kompass.

  • What happens if I do not get in on the first round?

In 2014, there were three rounds. With applications being submitted so quickly, many people did not manage to complete the CAL application (second part of Stage One) before the round closed. When the second round opened, these people were able to log back in to Kompass and continue with their half-completed application. Even if they again did not finish before the round closed, they still had another chance in the third round to submit.

  • I did not manage to submit in an earlier round (but entered everything except ‘IEC category’), what do I do now?

When the next round opens, log back into Kompass. Select working holiday within section 4 and complete. If you have completed all sections, you will be able to submit. On the next page, you will need to tick four boxes and type your Kompass password again. Press submit and you’re done! Well, almost. A minority of people have been asked to confirm how many letters there are in the word ‘Canada’ as a “I am not a robot” test before submitting. If this happens, type ‘6’ not ‘six.’

  • What happens if I am put on a waiting list?

Don’t give up! People drop out for all sorts of reasons. Applicants on the waiting list for the 2014 cycle are still being sent Conditional Acceptances now (Dec 2014/Jan 2015).

  • Am I able to open a MyCIC account ahead of time?

Yes, you can. You can also start completing the required forms if you like. Note that the listed of required forms may be added to and the code from the ‘Come to Canada’ questionnaire expires after 60 days.

  • Help! Some of the forms say I have to sign them. How can I electronically sign them?

You do not need to sign each individual form. Validate them as prompted and once they are all submitted you will be asked to to complete an electronic signature (which involves ticking a box) on behalf of all of them.

  • What if I do not have the required documents (police certificates) for Stage 2 in the time I need to submit everything? 

As per the IEC guide, ‘notify CIC immediately if you require more than 14 days to submit your documentation for your work permit application (e.g. police certificates).’ You may be granted an extension.

  • I lived in Australia for over 6 months. CIC says I need a traffic report (driving history) as well as the police certificate since I lived in Queensland and/or Victoria. I never drove in Australia or had an Australian license while I was there so what do I do?

Contact the transportation authority in Queensland and/or Victoria and explain your situation. Both authorities accept email enquiries – explain that you need a letter stating that you did not have a license (and therefore no driving history) and give all your relevant details (dates you lived there, address you lived at etc). You should receive an official letter back which you can upload to MyCIC.

  • If I receive a Letter of Introduction (LoI), how long do I have to enter Canada?

You will have one year (two for some nationalities) to enter Canada and then another year to live and work in Canada. Example – I am a British citizen, applying for a two year IEC working holiday permit. I receive my LoI in March 2015. I have until March 2016 to enter Canada. I decide to move to Canada on 10th November 2015. I will be given a permit valid for work and travel until 9th November 2017.

  • Help! My Letter of Introduction or Conditional Acceptance Letter does not look right?!

You are probably opening the PDF on a mobile device – try opening the document on the computer. Or better still, save the file onto your desktop and then open it.

  • I have previously lived in Canada and CIC have requested a RCMP Criminal Record Check. How do I get this?

A minority of applicants may be asked for a RCMP Criminal Record Check due to previous residency in Canada. Do not apply for this unless you have been specifically requested for one. The request may come even if you have already received your LoI after Stage 2. If you are in Canada, this is straightforward to get – visit your local RCMP station for more info (choose the electronic submission option!). If you are outside Canada it is much more difficult.

Submitting fingerprints is an integral part of the application. Post and electronic applications are both accepted but here’s the issue: postal applications take a long time (currently 5 months!) but electronic applications cannot be filed from outside Canada. There is a way round it however; you can get your fingerprints done at a police station in your home country and then pay a private company to submit them for the electronic application for you.

Joe from morehawes has been through this himself (in fact, this advice is all his) and initially had his prints done at a local police station in the UK. They were rejected. He ended up going to New Scotland Yard in London and paying a high fee to get them done, but these were actually accepted. The staff at NSY are practiced at doing fingerprints the old way (ink), while at smaller police stations it is a rare thing to do.

You can usually request an extension if you are having trouble getting the Police Check done by a certain timeframe.

  • What kind of travel insurance do I need to buy?

Check out my ‘choosing travel insurance for your working holiday’ post here.

True Traveller offers a great (and reasonably priced) range of travel insurance packages for people on working holidays, including those who need to start a policy away from their home country (i.e. long-term travellers or working holiday makers on their second IEC). They also offer 24 month coverage for British participants heading to Canada on the new 24 month work permit (most insurers only cover 12 months max). 

For more on working holidays in Canada, buy my brand new eBook ‘The Ultimate Guide to a Working Holiday in Canada’ – available to purchase online in our store. More information, including content list, can be found here. 

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Any questions? Leave a comment and I will reply as soon as I can. Alternatively, send me an email: gemma[at]offtracktravel.ca.

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2015 online app process 2

Note: I do not work for CIC, the information here has been gathered from personal online research/experience as well as second-hand information from previous applicants. Please be aware that I cannot be held liable for you, an applicant, experiencing any problems with your IEC application due to the advice given above or in the comments section. All opinions are my own but some links are affiliate links 

Thanks to Joe and Cathy for their advice and assistance in getting this as accurate as possible. Screenshots of IEC application and many of the updates are courtesy of Cathy – thank you! 

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  1. Jon says:

    This is an excellent step by step guide Gemma. Thanks a lot, fingers crossed I manage to get a visa. Jon

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Thanks for your comments Jon! Good luck! I’m sure you’ll be fine. Let me know if you have any more questions.

      • James says:

        Hi Gemma,

        Just curious looking at applying for my second year which is soon and you have said that I need to create a new Kompass Account but I cannot find on their site where it says I need to do this and logging into my old one its letting me start a new application, Obviously the section about what I want to apply for has a section that there is no quota open yet.

        KR J

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi James,

          Yes you will need to open a new Kompass account even if it is your 2nd year, according to the current IEC instructions. Check out the IEC guide here – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/IEC.asp Note the highlighted text stating “You can create a Kompass account only when IEC is open for your country. You must create a new account even if you applied for a CAL in a previous year.”

          Good luck!

          Gemma

          • Georgina says:

            Hi Gemma,
            thanks for all the info! I was just wondering if you could tell me how I can get onto the 2014 waiting list for the IEC Canadian working holiday visa.
            Thankyou!

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Georgina,

            Did you mean the 2015 waiting list? Check out your country”s respective page on the main IEC website for instructions.

      • Roz says:

        Hey Gemma thank you so much for this detailed page it really is a massive help!!! i was just wondering about the cv i have one that is in a slightly different format from the one they suggest as in it contains a personal profile and bait about my key skills ext should i do a separate one as per just their requirements? thanks in advance!
        Best wishes
        Roz

      • Shannon O'Neill says:

        Hey Gemma,

        My first working holiday visa expires in early Sept this year. From what I’ve read, you can’t apply for another one more than 12 weeks before expiry, so that would be June. But if the Australian release date is this Tuesday, March 3, won’t they all be gone by then?

        Cheers

        Shannon

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Shannon,

          May I ask where you have read that you cannot apply for another IEC work permit before than 12 weeks before expiry? This is not the case with the UK or Irish IEC working holiday permits, so I’m thinking perhaps it is an Australian only thing? Up until recently, Australians could participate in the program as many times as they wanted to before the age limit – it is now only once. Perhaps this is an old rule as per the old conditions?

          As far as I am aware, the quota for Australians usually isn’t 100% taken every year so perhaps this also has something to do with it.

      • Jenn says:

        Hi Gemma – do you have any information of the IEC Open Date for New Zealand for 2015?

      • Ricky says:

        Hi there Gemma, i just applied for my second participation in IEC. I just realised that in stage two in the fields that didnt apply to me, i left them blank rather than fill in “n/a”. Just wondering if this will affect my application in any way or still be good. Thanks.

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Ricky,

          Have you already submitted your stage 2 documents? If so, CIC may get in contact and ask for some clarification. It shouldn’t be a major problem, but it is not good practice to leave spaces on important forms. If you haven’t submitted Stage 2 yet, I would re-do your forms.

      • Natasha says:

        Hi Gemma, sorry to reply rather than write a comment but I cant figure out how to do it! I have submitted my CIC but then realised that I had uploaded a blank family form. Do you have any advice on what I should do now that I cant ammend the application? Thanks!

      • Isabel says:

        Hi Gemma,
        Thank you for putting together this page!
        I would like to know if there will be a third round for 2015 or is the quota now full for this year?
        Thankyou in advance.

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Isabel,

          Sadly there were only two rounds for the British IEC program for the 2015 cycle. The 2016 program should open again sometime December 2015-May 2016 judging by previous years.

    • Kate says:

      Hi Gemma,

      Great advice thank you! Regarding the new deadlines for the 2015 season.. If I applied now before October 9th would that give me a head start for the 2016 season opening? I’m confused.. What do you recommend?

      Kate

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Kate,

        Everyone will need to create a new Kompass account for the 2016 season, so there is no advantage to signing up now unless you want to practice :)

  2. Nomad says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I read your blog and it is awesome! I have just done a year in Australia and want to apply for canada.
    On the application process and the police check application, it asks for family details. What if we dont have them?

    Also, i just did a year in Australia, and i need to get a traffic report. But i dont know what to do as i never held a driving licence there

    Any advice you could share?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi there,

      I replied to you via email but I thought just I would answer your questions here too for the sake of others reading.

      I have added the answer to the Australia traffic report question in the FAQs.

      Regarding family details (CIC asks for birth date/marital and occupation details of your parents, spouse and siblings in the second stage) – if you do not have them, fill in as much as you know and then type ‘UNKNOWN – see supplementary sheet’ in the bits you don’t (do not leave any blanks). Then write an explanation within a Word doc (titled something like ‘Supplementary Family Information’) and upload this to MyCIC too. Briefly tell CIC why you wouldn’t havr the information ‘My mother moved away in 2003 and we are no longer in contact.’ etc. CIC are not trying to catch you out if you have a legitimate reason not to know these details. Providing as much information as you can is always the way to go here!

      Gemma

  3. Bronagh shuel says:

    Gemma this guide is so useful! I’m actually just arrived in the US on a graduate j1 visa but am completely unhappy and therefore thinking about heading home so that I can resign to this visa and apply for one to Canada!!

  4. Aly says:

    Hey,

    Thank you for all the information! I have been checking out the IEC website quite frequently since September but as of a few weeks ago I can’t seem to find the page that tells you when the 2014 release dates were and where they said that the visa will be posted sometime in January 2015 anymore. The page said how many visas were given on each round last year and so on. Maybe you could help me and send me the link if it is still available? Or send me the link where they were will say the release dates?
    Thank you again for all of your helpful information!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Aly,

      The website you need to be keeping an eye on is this one http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp. The IEC website changed in December and no longer shows the old round release dates from 2014 or the part about ‘the IEC will not open before January 2015′, I’m guessing to avoid confusion. Seems to have just created more in my opinion!

      Good luck

      Gemma

  5. Kris Athi says:

    Hey! Great Article! Do we know when they programme is likely to open for this year? Are there any warning signs or is it just a case of checking the site every day? Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      It’s just a matter of checking the site for the announcement of the opening I’m afraid. It is very unlikely to just start with no warning – last year there was three days notice before the first round’s quota opened.

  6. Nic Lapworth says:

    Great info on here! One quick question Im struggling to find the answer for: If you’re wanting to take part a second time, does it need to be consecutive, i.e the following year or can you reapply a year or more later? Thanks in advance

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Nic,

      If you are applying for the British program, then I can confirm that you do not need to take your IECs consecutively. As long as you still fulfil all the eligibility requirements (age for example) you can definitely wait a few years and return to Canada after your first IEC.

      Gemma

  7. Danielle Musselwhite says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Thank you for the great article. I am currently living in Canada on my first IEC visa which is valid till March 2015, and am hoping to apply for my second IEC visa for Canada. I lived in Australia for a year and I had to send off a police check for both Australia and England when I applied for my first IEC visa.. Do I still need to send off for both an English and Australian police check again even though I have been living in Canada for the last 10 months?
    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Danielle,

      Sadly yes you do under current program requirements. The CIC treats your second application as completely separate from your first, aside from the one question asking about previous participation. I had to get a NZ police certificate for both of my IECs as well as my PR application leading to me applying for a total of three UK and NZ police certs in the space of less than two years. They do like to make it difficult don’t they?! Good luck!

      Gemma

      • Danielle Musselwhite says:

        They do like to make it difficult yes!! Thank you so much for your reply, you have been really helpful and I appreciate it.
        All the best
        Danielle

  8. Aaron black says:

    Hi

    Great article, has helped alot.

    My only problem is that i live in the canaries for just under a year in Europe, but did travel back several times top the UK. I also have been in the Dominican Republic for 8 months now( though have been to Canada twice) and will be here till May. Though this is just seasonal work as a surf instructor.

    Does this mean i need an ACPO from the UK, here in the Dominican and in Fuerteventura (canary islands). And you said if you are lucky enough to get through to this section you may only have 7 days to get these sorted. Meaning i will probably not get them back in time.

    Sorry i just really want to make sure i have everything i really need and really dont want to miss out on getting this visa. More than appreciate your help, and if you are able to reply quickly just so i can get things sorted if needed.

    Aaron

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Aaron,

      I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will indeed need police checks from these countries if you have lived there for longer than 6 months. One of the forms required in Stage Two asks more about your immigration status in any countries you have lived in for over 6 months – whether you were a tourist, worker etc.

      As mentioned, it is not clear yet how long applicants will have to upload police checks in stage two of the process. In 2014, the CIC allowed 90 days for applicants to get all the documentation uploaded, which is a fair amount of time. The limited information released so far for the 2015 program indicates that the CAL from stage one will only be valid to open a MyCIC account for 7 or 15 days. The wording specifically only mentions the CAL’s validity to open the account.In my opinion it would be crazy for the CIC to expect applicants to be able to apply, receive and upload all the required documents in 7/14 day. For one thing, the workload it would create for CIC sets themselves up for failure before they’ve even started, never mind that the ACRO would have a hell of a time trying to produce thousands of police certs in such a short amount of time.

      HOWEVER, there is a section in the IEC application guide (the same one that states ’15 days’ to upload the CAL even though another CIC source says ‘7’) that states

      “notify CIC immediately if you require more than 15 days to submit your documentation for your work permit application (e.g. police certificates).

      This complicates things and makes it sound like it will only be 15 days. We are not likely to know for sure until the program opening is announced. If I were you, I would be researching how long the non-UK police checks will take to come through. Anything longer than a straightforward process (such as the UK one), I would personally be applying right now. I would also have my UK police check application ready to send.

      Gemma

  9. Aaron black says:

    Gemma,

    P.S Though no residence cards were given etc and so as if i am living here as a tourist.

  10. Rachel says:

    This is a fantastic guide. I’ve researched the process as much as is physically possible but it was nice to be able to see the process broke down step-by-step! Thankyou!

    This is sliiightly off topic, but I just wondered, are you planning on staying in Canada after your IEC visa is up and if so (as this is what I want to do) how soon after you move do you need to start the process for a longer work permit etc?

    Thanks again!! Great of you to right this guide :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachel,

      Thanks for your comments! I have lived in Canada now for just over 3 years (oh how time flies!) – I had two IEC visas and then applied for Permanent Residency a few months into my 2nd. I am sadly not the best person to speak to regarding PR as I applied for it via the spousal/common law sponsorship route (my boyfriend is Canadian). There are a handful of different ways to apply for PR based on employment – Federal Skilled Worker, Experience Class, PNP etc. A new application system called Express Entry just came in January 1st so if I were you I would research each method and see if any fit your skills. The British Expats website and wiki are good sources. Good luck!

  11. Daniel Doyle says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am in the 2nd month of my first IEC visa and I am getting ready to apply for my second year. For the police certificate can I still use the British one that I have on me? Or do I have to go through the hassle of getting another police check from Britain?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Daniel,

      Your police certificate has to be less than 3 months old when uploading to CIC in the 2nd stage. I’m not sure what date the one you have on you is dated, but it is very likely you will need a new one. Sorry to be the messenger. I would get on sorting the paperwork ASAP since you are in Canada.

      Gemma

  12. Poppy Thorne says:

    Hello.
    This is great – thank you so much for the guidance.
    Does anyone know where to get a New Zealand police check from? And any clues on how long it will take?
    I am back in the UK now but was licking in nz until October last year.
    Thank you.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Poppy,

      I lived in New Zealand for over 6 months too, so had to provide a NZ police check for both of my IEC applications as well as for Permanent Residency (PR). All three times I’ve done it I’ve never actually applied for the police certificate myself – CIC has done this for me. I can’t link to the IEC NZ police check instructions right now since the website is offline (perhaps a good sign that the program may open soon?!) but the instructions for pepple applying for PR are available here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/new-zealand.asp You basically submit the ‘Consent to Disclosure of Information’ form during the 2nd stage of the process along with the other documents (read the instructions) and this gives CIC what they need to look at your NZ police records.

      Having said that though, there is a bit at the bottom of the page that says ‘A Ministry of Justice certificate is acceptable for International Experience Canada (IEC) applicants’ which is an alternative way to get a NZ police check. Here is some more information http://www.justice.govt.nz/services/criminal-records/how-to-get-a-copy-of-your-criminal-conviction-history. It doesn’t cost any money but takes 20 working days. It may be worth getting one of these in case the CIC decide this is how they want ALL IEC candidates to get their police check in 2015. Even if things go the other way and they change their mind and only CIC accept the ‘Consent to Disclosure of Information’ form (and related documents), you’ve only lost your own time applying for the Ministry of Justice one rather than money.

      Hope that helps

  13. Dan says:

    Hi,

    Just wanted to say thank you!

    This is one of the most coherent breakdowns of the process that I have been able to find and has cleared any confusion and doubts that I had.

    All the best,

    Dan :)

  14. Andrew Maher says:

    Hi Gemma,Great guide to say the least, really helpful and easy to navigate. Im just wondering, I spent 10 months in France as part of my college course. Will i need to apply for a police certificate from France, or is there a way that CIC could do it for me, like you mentioned in one of your previous responses to do with NZ. Just from spending nearly a year in France, its really difficult to get anything administrative processed quickly.

    Thanks for any insight you could give me.

  15. Rob says:

    Hi

    Does acpo have to be used or will disclosure Scotland be accepted too? Not just a cheaper service but a faster turnaround too

  16. Amy says:

    Thanks for the info! I am not able to even register for a Kompass account yet, is this right? I thought you were able to register but just not create the account until the quota opens but I am unable to do either – help please?!?!?! Also, I created an account thinking I was doing the right thing but obviously not as I can now see that you can only create your account when the quota opens, but what about the WTN I received, is this something I am supposed to use even though it is just a blank account sitting there and not able to use?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Amy,

      You will need to register for a brand new Kompass account when the program opens. If you have already created one, don’t panic. Just open another one when it opens, but be prepared to use a different email address. I don’t understand your comment regarding a WTN – you receive a WTN once you have submitted your initial IEC application in the first stage of the process, soon after registering a Kompass account. With the UK program currently closed (if that is indeed the one you are wishing to apply to), there is no way to apply for a WTN at this time.

  17. Will says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Great breakdown of the process. I am currently in my first IEC year, visa is valid until June 18 2015. I expect the quota for The Netherlands to open the first week of February, but to be sure I am checking the website daily.

    My question: I read something concerning about not being able to apply for a second work visa until 12 weeks away from the expiry date?! I think it depends per country, but I can’t find anywhere if this time is the same for The Netherlands. As we only have one moment in the year the qua to opens with a total of 600 places; it is essential that I can apply immediately to assure a work visa. I would love to hear any info anyone has on this. And if not, does anyone have a phone number I could try calling?

    Thanks in advance!

    Willemijn

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Will,

      I’ve never heard of anything like that, but you’re quite right in saying that there are some differences between each country’s IEC program. I had a quick look on the IEC website (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp) regarding eligibility requirements for Dutch citizens, and the only thing that jumps out at me is: “As a Dutch citizen, you may participate in IEC twice. You must choose a different category each time.” It seems that there is a working holiday scheme and young professionals program available for Dutch citizens and they both come under the ‘IEC’ tag. Maybe this is something to do with it? Having very little knowledge of the Dutch scheme I’m really sorry I can’t help further!

      It is very difficult to get in contact with anyone running the IEC program. There is a section at the bottom of the Application Guide that actually says “The IEC Team does not answer questions over the phone. The only way to contact the IEC Team is to use the online form created for that purpose.” Here is the link to the form http://kompass-iec-eic.international.gc.ca/feedback.aspx?Lang=en&_ga=1.145557172.1604562304.1419489022

      Good luck Will!

    • Roxanne says:

      Hoi Willemijn,

      Ik zit met hetzelfde probleem. Ik heb al eens een working holiday visum gehad en wil deze nu voor de 2e keer aanvragen. Is dit bij jou gelukt?

      Ik kan me niet aanmelden voor het Young Professionals Program omdat ik geen werk aanbod heb.

      Ik weet dat het al even geleden is maar ik hoop dat je me een antwoord kunt geven.

      gr. Roxanne

  18. Fa says:

    Just a quick, as Italian I can apply up to 35y however since they did not open yet Im already 36. So this makes me unsuitable? Im just wondering, because Im really sad about this 1 month gap and this visa would make things much easier for me. Anyone know about any other visa for Canada that you can work without having a sponsor? Im not sure how difficult is o find sponsors.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Fa,

      I don’t know whether the Italian program is just the same as the UK one, but under the same rules you would not be eligible. If the wording is 18-35 inclusive, this means you can apply up to your 35th birthday. If you are already 36 then I’m afraid you are no longer eligible.

      There are ways to gain permanent residence in Canada without a sponsored job offer. You would need either specific in-need skills (Federal Skilled Worker route), recent and extensive work experience in Canada OR a Canadian common law partner/spouse. It has become difficult to get an employer to sponsor a work permit ever since the CIC changed the LMO scheme to the LMIA program. Employers now have to pay around $1000 to sponsor an employee AND jump through lots of hoops to prove to the government that there is no Canadian willing or qualified to do the job. Having said that, it is not impossible, it really depends on your skills. This is about all of my knowledge on PR (aside from common law sponsorship) I’m afraid! Good luck!

  19. Matt says:

    Thanks a lot for this guide Gemma. I’m hoping to follow it for 2015!

    I have a couple of questions you might be able to help me with:

    – Is there a typical time of day that the Kompass registration opens? What time of day did it open in your experience of applying?
    – Does registration typically open on a weekday, or are weekends a real possibility too?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Matt,

      Last year the program opened at 3pm UK time (10am in Ottawa). The UK scheme specifically has never opened on a weekend but other IEC programs have, so it is not completely unheard of. Good luck!

  20. James says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thank you for all this information, it is very useful.

    I am applying for the first time this year. I am 26 years old and had a police caution when I was 15. Is it likely this will make an affect on a successful application.

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi James,

      Have you applied and received a UK ACPO police certificate yet? From what I’ve read, it is unlikely that a caution would come up on it. Even if it did, it doesn’t make you automatically ineligible for the IEC since you were not actually convicted/went to court etc (correct me if I’m wrong). Something I’ve heard people do before is submit an explanation letter with their application (stage two, at the same time as the police cert), telling CIC their story and how they are a changed person (in your case, the caution was quite a long time ago when you were a young teenager so you have grown up a lot since then I would imagine). The best you can do is to always be honest and provide enough information as you can, both to the police for the ACPO and also to the CIC.

  21. Amy NZ says:

    Hi Gemma, your guide is very clear and your responses are very detailed. I am a New Zealander residing in NZ and wish to apply for the IEC in 2015. Previously we were able to apply for one 1 year holiday visa if we aged 18-35. There has been some verbal agreement between the Canadian and NZ prime ministers in November 2014 to extend this to two years. Have you heard anything similar? Also although I am an NZ citizen, I have only been living in NZ for the past 12 months and worked in London between 2010-2013. I previously obtained an ACPO, from the ACRO to cover my time in the UK for teaching registration purposes, however, that was also 12 months ago. Do you think I will need to reapply for this UK documentation and what do you think the time frame would be? Thanks so much for your advice

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Amy,

      I haven’t heard anything more than you regarding the new NZ/Canada agreement. It’s definitely an exciting move for Kiwis but it’s still mostly unknown right now from my limited knowledge.

      I’m afraid you will need another ACPO police certificate unless the policy changes along with the two year IEC change. CIC’s current policy for all immigration routes is for police checks to be less than 3 months old. The standard processing time for ACPO is 10 days. Since you’ve lived in the UK recently, one option for you would be to get your police certificate sent to a trusted friend in the UK, who would scan it and then email to you. This would save the time & hassle of the certificate being sent all the way to you in NZ. Keep in mind that your friend would need to be reliable though due to the time frames in the process.

  22. Colin says:

    Hi Gemma, this is a very helpful piece. I was just wondering is it only on the day the Working Holiday program is opened that you can set up your Kompass account or can you do this before? Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Colin,

      When the program opens, everyone will have to create a new Kompass account at that time. So while you can open one now, there is no reason to. Good luck!

  23. Rachael says:

    Hi

    Firstly, thank you so much for the post, started originally on the website and was overloaded with information and wasn’t sure which/what to do first.

    You have probably already answered this, but I can’t find the post. I’m just wondering if you can’t create a Kompass account before the IEC is open, is there anything else I can do in order to be completely ready for when it does? I just really want to go to Canada. This is the first time I’ve ever travelled and I’m a little bit nervous that I may mess up the application processes. Can I fill out the other stages or do I have to sign up with Kompass before filling everything else? Sorry if that doesn’t make much sense.

    Thanks again.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachael,

      The most you can do before the process opens is get your police certificate ready as that can take a bit of time, as well as any other police certs you may need if you have lived anywhere else for over 6 months since the age of 18. I would also collect all the required info for the first couple of steps (Kompass and CAL application) so you’re not fumbling for the right details when it comes down to it. You could open a Kompass account as a practice, but you will still have to open a brand new one later when the program opens.

      For stage 2 – The CIC checklist is a good place to start (linked in the post) but I wouldn’t treat it as gospel right now with the program still closed. It will however give you a good idea of what to expect. The required documentation MAY change later, or may not.

      • Rachael says:

        Hi Gemma

        Thank you for the reply the other day. I’ve 3 more questions, hope you don’t mind:
        1. I’m just wondering besides for the police certs what else can I prep for the IEC opening?
        2. for a working holiday visa, which forms would I have to fill out (I would like to make sure I have everything in order?)
        3. I know you mentioned it before but is the stage 1 done completely in Kompass then you move on to the MyCIC in stage 2? Where do you upload the documents (passport scan, police cert, photographs, etc.)

        Thank you in advance for your help.
        Rachael

        • Rachael says:

          Sorry I forgot to add this; where will the information about the IEC opening dates be posted?

          Thanks again Gemma and sorry about all the questions,
          Rachael

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rachael,

          1. As per the guide (near the beginning), you can gather all the required infomation for step one and two of Stage One – passport and contact details. Think of a Kompass password that will fulfil the criteria (8-12 characters etc).

          2. I’m not sure I understand what you mean? For Stage One the main form is the IEC application for a Conditional Acceptance Letter (CAL). For Stage Two there will be various forms to fill out. If you want some idea of what the forms will look like you can complete CIC’s ‘Come to Canada’ questionnaire to find out. I wouldn’t start filling these out however, as they may change. With the program not open yet, nothing is set in stone.

          3. Stage One is entirely Kompass. Stage Two is MyCIC. Two completely separate application programs. As per the guide, you will fill in the IEC application, pay the fee and upload two documents via Kompass (resume plus scan of passport photo identity page). A work permit application plus other required documents (again, see the ‘Come to Canada’ questionnaire’) will need to be upload via MyCIC.

          4. The opening dates will be available on the IEC website, http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp, and on the IEC Twitter page. https://twitter.com/iec_eic

          • Rachael says:

            Hi Gemma

            I was reading a post you said about when the IEC opens for your country you can create a kompass account and fill in the information and wait for the working holiday to open. Just a quick question, when filling out the form can I complete each section but not submit the form?
            Thanks again for all the advice.

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Rachael,

            Yes, that is correct if you are from a country with more than one IEC program (e.g. Ireland, Germany etc). You can complete every section except for the ‘IEC category.’

  24. Naomi Muir says:

    Hi Gemma

    Thanks for the really helpful guide. I wonder if you can help with this – I have a IEC visa for 2015 but am not able to use it due to a change in circumstances. As I have a Point of Entry letter already I don’t think I can ‘return’ my visa. Is that right? Will not using this visa affect my chances of getting a second one in the future?

    Many thanks
    Naomi

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Naomi,

      That is correct – if you received your Port of Entry you effectively have used one IEC, even though you did not activate it in Canada. This should not have any kind of influence on your second application as they are treated as two separate applications with the exception of the part which asks about previous participation. Good luck! I hope your circumstances are more favourable for your second chance.

      Good luck!

  25. Colin says:

    If you are lucky enough to obtain a working holiday visa how long do you have to enter Canada and activate it? Does the 2 years start when you get Accepted or when you enter the country?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Colin,

      I have a FAQ regarding this near the bottom of the guide (the example is for Brits receiving a one year permit). If you are Irish or from one of the other countries with a two year scheme (New Zealand this year) then your two years will start when you enter Canada and activate your permit.

      Q – If I receive a Letter of Introduction (LoI), how long do I have to enter Canada?
      A – You will have one year to enter Canada and then another year to live and work in Canada. Example – I receive my LoI in March 2015. I have until March 2016 to enter Canada. I decide to move to Canada on 10th November 2015. I will be given a visa valid for work and travel until 9th November 2016.

  26. Lusy says:

    Hi Gemma!
    Thank you for instruction ;) I have some questions for you:

    1. I would like to ask you, when the CIC post (for example 3 days befor) the opening day for Working holioday, can I in that 3 days make a new Kompass account or I need to wait the exact opening day for create account?

    2. Can I copy/paste information when I will fill the application?

    3. About working experience in application – I have many employers, do I have to write all of them?

    4. Do I have upload the CV on the day when the application start or latter, when they said I am in quota?
    The same ask for passport?

    5. About he police certifikate… Do I have to send it like other documents – uploaded, or send it by poste?

    6. About Mycic account – Do I need the new, differente username, password.. or the same like use for Kompass?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lusy,

      Here are some answers for you.

      1. You will have to wait until the program opens, on the scheduled date and exact time to open a new Kompass account. According to the IEC’s official Facebook group, the scheduled date of the IEC opening will be announceed with 3 days notice and then the opening time with 24 hours notice.

      2. I actually 100% don’t know, I would assume so.

      3. Yes. If there isn’t enough space in the form, you can upload an additional document

      4. As per the guide, you will need your resume during step 3 of stage one. You will not need it for the initial application on the day IEC opens. You will upload it within 10 days of receiving your ‘notice of receipt.’

      5. Your police certificate needs to be uploaded. The whole application is online.

      6. MyCIC uses a different log-in/password system to Kompass.

      Good luck!

  27. Kristy knox says:

    Hi Gemma, when u say create a compass account, is this something we will be prompted to do so on the iec website? Or is it a different link?

  28. Jenny says:

    Hello and thank you for this article, it has been incredibly helpful! :)

    I just have one question that I’m sure is rather silly but I’ll go ahead and ask anyway. I’m a British citizen but have been residing in Colombia – South America for the past 10 years. Does this affect my application to IEC? Do I have to be living in the UK to be eligible?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jenny,

      There should be no problems with you being in Colombia the last 10 years. There was a residency requirement up until a few years ago which from memory said you had to have lived in the UK for 3 out of the last 5 years. Something like that. I would say it’s unlikely the CIC would bring that back in having previously got rid of it. As a Brit, you can apply for the IEC program whereever you are in the world. Just be aware that you will need a police certificate from Colombia to upload during stage 2 – MyCIC. Good luck!

      • Jenny says:

        Hi Gemma,

        Thanks for your reply, that’s quite a relief!

        Just one other question that may be a long shot, but you might know something about it. I’m an engineer but I would like to check out Canada (and take a break from coding for a while!) before actually making the move to work and live there permanently, so the working holiday program seems like a good option to do that. In the ideal situation that I DO get the working holiday visa for a year, would I have to complete the year before being able to get a work permit for a job in my actual profession? Also, what happens if you decide to leave Canada before the year is up?

        Thank you so much for all your help :)

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Jenny,

          The IEC is intended to give young people a chance to travel Canada for up to a year, with the choice to supplement travel with work. There is zero pressure to stay a whole year or even to stay a month! It is completely up to you what you do with your IEC, whether you work OR travel OR both! A lot of people head straight for the cities (Vancouver, Toronto) and jump right into work, remaining there for most, if not all, of their year. Other people may work a ski season and then travel in the summer. Some ski season workers just stay the winter and then leave for New Zealand in late Spring!

          If a company decides to sponsor you for another work permit through the LMIA process, there are other factors that are more important rather than in-Canada experience. Companies need to prove that no Canadian is willing or would do better in the job than you. Canadian experience does come into it, but advertising the job to Canadians is the main factor. On another note, there are a couple of different routes to Permanent Residency that require you to have a certain amount of experience (i.e. time in a skilled profession) to qualify so if you are seriously considering staying in Canada, I would advise you to look up the new Express Entry route to PR plus Provincial Nomination (google the name of a province and ‘PNP’)

          • Jenny says:

            Thank you Gemma!

            This is the last one I swear :) But just to confirm that I have this right: While I’m working and/or travelling in Canada under the IEC program, I could I also look for a temporal job in my profession (if they accept foreign workers, of course) and then apply for that work permit while still in Canada and under IEC?

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Yes, definitely! You can apply for any kind of job you want. Good luck Jenny!

  29. Calum says:

    Hi Gemma, great article. I have a question, would be grateful if you could answer.

    I turn 31 on 3rd Feb 2015. I want to apply for a working holiday visa, however the online application is “closed until mid-February”.

    Does this mean I am out of luck or do they make exceptions for these type of scenarios?

    Cheers

    Calum

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Calum,

      Hate to be the messenger, but it is very unlikely you will be able to take part in the IEC. I’ve never heard of CIC making any kind of exception for age. The only chance is if CIC changes the age limits for some of the programs (not unheard of, they do change up the conditions every so often) OR they decide to make some exceptions since the program is starting so late this year. Note that I think the later is pretty unlikely but you never know.

  30. Paul says:

    Hi Gemma.
    I’m currently on my first visa(Entered in October) and got police certs for UK and France sorted as I left anticipating a December/January opening date. They will be just out of date for 3months if it opens mid February will these be rejected if they are slightly past the 3months?
    You say they should have your Canadian address if you are currently in Canada, again will they be picky on this if mine have my UK address?
    Any advice would be much appreciated!
    Paul

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Paul,

      The official word from CIC regarding police certificates is ‘The certificate must be issued no more than three months before you apply.’ So yes, if they are older than 3 months they may indeed be rejected. I found this quote here – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

      The ACPO (UK police check) application form states “Current Address – This is the physical address at which you reside and should be shown on your proofs of address.” It would therefore be a bit confusing to have your IEC application stating that you currently reside in Canada but have a police cert with a British address. It is possible it may be overlooked but I wouldn’t personally take the risk.

      Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

  31. Sarah Majlesi says:

    Hi Gemma,
    First of all, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
    I have learned so much in the past couple of minutes reading your post.
    I have a question and would appreciate it so very much if you could give me your thoughts on this!

    I, like you, have submitted a PR application in the form of spousal sponsorship from UK, London’s office since October 2014 and have received my sponsor’s eligibility very recently. I am currently living in Canada and trying to apply for International Experience to be able to start working whilst my PR is being processed…My question is, do you think applying for IEC will have any conflicts with my PR application? Also, will it be ok to send off an IEC application from inside Canada? I am thinking I will easily be able to leave and enter again with LOI …?

    Best Regards,
    Sarah

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sarah, thanks for all the thank yous! ;)

      There is no problem applying for the IEC while having a PR application in processing. And it is absolutely fine to apply for the IEC from inside of Canada, lots of people do it. Indeed I did for my 2nd one. Once you receive your LoI you can either take it as an excuse for a weekend trip to the States or just do a quick ‘flagpole’ at the border.

      Good luck with your PR app as well as the IEC!

  32. John says:

    Hi Gemma, thank you so much for the information!

    A question I just need to confirm the answer to – I lived in Australia for 8 months, didn’t have an Aussie driving licence, but rented a car for a week or so in both Victoria and Queensland for road trips. Will I need to get the relevant traffic history letters from both territories? Or does it just if you had a licence and/or bought a car?

    Thanks so much!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi John,

      According to CIC’s instructions, a traffic report is only needed for people who were resident in Queensland and Victoria. I would guess that CIC’s definition for ‘residency’ is based on six months of living in a place (hence police certificates being required after living somewhere for six months) so it depends whether you lived in either Queensland or Victoria for over six months or more. If so, you will need to apply for a traffic report or official documentation stating you didn’t have a license. Hope that helps

      • John says:

        Hi Gemma – thanks for replying so quickly! :)

        Ah ha – so just to confirm, ‘resident’ in the states’ eyes would likely mean that you were registered at a fixed (private?) address for 6 months or longer? I never had a fixed address in Australia – I travelled around staying in hostels or crashing on couches. I worked on a farm for 8 weeks but stayed in a hostel, and worked in Sydney for 1 month (all other work was CIH). Also, does the 6 month rule apply to the country or to the territory? If the latter, I didn’t spend longer than 6 months in either so this would be irrelevant.

        I do have one more question, I hope you don’t mind! Do you know of any restrictions on bringing your dog with you on the IEC? I have researched everything about exporting your pet to Canada in general, but am just unsure whether it has any effect on an IEC application – do you remember if it is mentioned at all?

        Thank you so much, again! :)

        John

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi John,

          By the sounds of it, you didn’t spend any longer than six months in either Queensland or Victoria so I wouldn’t worry about getting a traffic report unless specifically asked. CIC seems to base the idea of ‘residency’ on a 6 months or more (police certs for everywhere else is based this timeframe). Note that this is my opinion – none of the CIC literature I have read about Australian police/traffic reports refers to anything else other than ‘residents’ of a state – I haven’t found or have knowledge of an official CIC definition of ‘resident.’

          Re: pets. I don’t know of any restrictions – in fact, I met some Germans on the IEC who brought their two dogs over with them. They told me (to my surprise) that it was very easy to bring them over, had absolutely no issues with immigration regarding it.

          • John says:

            Thank you Gemma, you are a star! :)

            P.S. I too was surprised and pleased at how easy it appears to be to get your dog over to Canada!

  33. Will says:

    Hi! Great step-by-step its really useful, thanks fr putting in the time!

    Im wondering whether you think I can get another visa? I’ve had two; the first in 2011 and the second in 2013, but on the IEC site in now says visas before 2011 do not count. What do you think?
    Ill probably just try and apply anyway but any info would be great!

    Thanks, Will

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Will,

      I could speculate, to be honest I don’t want to get your hopes up or put them down. The IEC will release more information about the new 24 month work permits for British citizens soon and I’m sure the announcement will explain the pre-2011 situation better. Until then, sit tight!

  34. Holly says:

    Wow. Incredibly glad I found this site. Only just decided to go for this and didn’t want to fork out for BUNACs service but the system does seen rather daunting but this definitely helped! I was just wondering at want point is your place like ‘held’ for you? Is it as soon as you complete the first stage you have a place on the quota as long as you meet all the other deadlines?
    Is it extremely difficult to get a place on the quota?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Holly,

      Whether you pay BUNAC or not, you will need to apply for the IEC work permit in this way, so I’m glad it has helped you. As long as you meet all other deadlines, you will receive reserved or held place after step two of stage one if you manage to get a place on the quota. The quota for round one (2,000 places) in 2014 ran out in around ten minutes, to give you an idea of how competitive it is. However, if you don’t get a place in the first round (there are likely to be three), don’t give up. If you have most of the application complete, this means you will have an advantage in round two and can just ‘submit.’

      I’ll also add that people on the 2014 waiting list are still being contacted and advised they now have a place.

      • Holly says:

        Thanks Gemma. I have used your website to get really prepared for the application. Trying to ensure I have prepared as much as possible in advance in the hope that I can get through the first round. Fingers crossed! Thanks for the great website, I have already recommended it on the au pair Canada groups I have joined. It has been an absolute life line in preparing very quickly. Much easier to understant the IEC website itself!
        :)

  35. Oksana says:

    Hi, Gemma!

    100 thanks for a great and super useful info!It is super useful even for other countries! Do you know is it the same procedure of registration for all countries? Also maybe do you know the secret of the quickest way to know when they will open a quota for year 2015?Where they usually make official announcement that the quota is open? Following the practice of the previous years could you please advise exact date it was opened last year?

    Many thanks in advance!

    Br, Oksana

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Oksana,

      Quite a few countries have a similar IEC process as this one, you will have to check the instructions for your own country to double check. The opening date will be announced on the official IEC website and also on the Twitter page @IEC_EIC with three days notice.

      The program has opened at various times in the last few years. Last year the first round was in December.

  36. Portia Lambert says:

    hi gemma,
    i did a working holiday in NZ for 9 months in 2013 and one in AUS in 2014 for just over 6 months, does this mean i have to apply for police checks in both countries? is it going to be too late if i do have to?

    thanks heaps

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Portia,

      Yes, you will need a police certificate from both of these countries, as well as a traffic report from Victoria or Queensland if you lived there. Luckily the NZ one is super easy to get – you don’t actually have to apply for a physical certificate, you just upload a ‘Consent to Disclosure’ form in Stage 2 which will give CIC the ability to get your records from NZ. More info here – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/new-zealand.asp

      As for the Australian one, if you don’t get it back in time for when you need to submit all your documents in Stage 2, the old IEC guide (currently offline while they update it) stated that applicants should upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ in the absence of the police cert. If you have any kind of receipt from the Australian gov for the police cert posessing, I would be inclined to upload this too.

  37. Calvin says:

    Gemma, thanks so much for you constant updating; I’ve found this really valuable.

    I have a rather unique scenario and I was wondering if you know anything on it. I worked in Canada on a gap-year (though Bunac) in 2008, and after this date they reset the rules, meaning I could apply for x2 one years visas. I am currently in Vancouver on my ‘first’ year and was going to re-apply for my second. With the rule change, I’m not sure if can apply for the new 2 year one (essentially meaning I’ll have had 4 years of visa) or I can no longer apply? I’ve read on the site ‘Participations in the IEC program before 2011 do not count toward the maximum number of participations’ but I’ve also read ‘An applicant who has participated in IEC before 2015 for a period of up to 12 months is eligible for a second participation of up to 24 months. Those who have already participated in IEC more than once before 2015 are no longer eligible to apply’

    I am beyond confused! Do you have any thoughts?

    Thanks so much,
    Calvin

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Calvin,

      Until the CIC officially makes an announcement relating to the British IEC change, I don’t really want to speculate one way or another. I wouldn’t want to get your hopes up only to be incorrect later for one thing! Personally I think it would be crazy for the CIC to double back on their previous decision to make all pre-2011 working holiday visas not count towards the total. Fingers crossed for you!

  38. Peter says:

    Regarding the age limit, does the <=30 years old limit apply only for the initial application form?
    I will be 31 at the end of February, so it will be pretty close.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Peter,

      The current rules state that applicants must be 30 on application i.e. submitted step 1 & 2 of Stage one. With various changes happening (12 months to 24 months for British citizens for example), it is possible that this may be altered for the 2015 program in the way that anything could be changed! I would double check the application guide as soon as it comes out (it ‘will be available online again not later than mid-February 2015.’ according to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/apply.asp) as well all other announcements. It is cutting it pretty fine, I really hope it works out for you.

  39. Rob A says:

    Hi Gemma.

    Thanks for everything so far!

    But now I have read something else that makes me think this process is more difficult than first thought…

    Once a working holiday visa is granted, a work permit is then needed to be applied for. Correct?

    But I just seen a paragraph on the cic website that says in order to work in Canada, you need a temp residents visa.

    Once I have a working visa, I then have to apply for a work permit and that’s end of. Correct or not?

    Cheers in advance

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rob,

      There actually is no such thing as a ‘Canadian working holiday visa’ – it’s something of a misnomer. The IEC program provides a work permit which entitles you to temporary resident status. Yes, this guide is refers to ‘How to apply for a Canadian Working Holiday Visa’ because that is the common title for this type of program – in New Zealand and Australia that is the official name. It’s just easier (and most commonly recognised) to call all the different programs ‘Working Holiday Visas’ for sake of convenience.

      Anyway, with that out of the way, the process described in this guide is the application for the IEC temporary work permit. At the end of the two stages, you don’t actually even have the actual work permit. You have a letter which explains to the border officer that you have been approved for one, as long as you pass the final eligibility test – Port of Entry Letter of Introduction, insurance, proof of funds and your passport. You will then receive the work permit.

      Let me know if that doesn’t clear it up for you

  40. Ahmed says:

    Hey there Gemma,

    Wonderful effort on this article. Its really helping making sense of this process :)

    Just wondering if you could clarify just a few more things for a confused Aussie.

    1. I live in Queensland and I will have to get a traffic history report, but i was wondering if they were valid for the same amount of time as a police cert (3 months till expiry).

    2. Do you know if Australians have a quota for the IEC? I’ve been trying to research this but i keep finding contradictory answers. Some say no quota, others say limited quota.

    3. Lastly, I was born in Sudan and immigrated to Australia when i was six, however i haven’t lived there for more than 6 consecutive months in the past 10 years. I’ve gone for the odd family trip, but its never lasted more than 2 months at a time. Is it likely that CIC will ask me for a birth certificate from Sudan even though i hold a Australian citizenship? Just wondering as it might be quite difficult to produce it.

    Thank you in advance,

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ahmed,

      Glad it has helped!

      1. You know, it’s not something I’ve actually thought about. I would assume the expiry would be the same as police certs since they are requested together.

      2. Australians traditionally have not had a quota, though of course it may be different this year. It used to be that Australians could participate in the IEC an unlimited number of times but that has changed recently. So you never know.

      3. If you have not lived or been in Sudan for 6 months or longer since the age of 18 I would say you do not need one. It seems unlikely you would be asked if you have not been there for any substantial length of time since the age of six.

      Good luck!

  41. Mairead says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thanks so much for helping us out by putting together the best guide out there on the visa process. One quick question for if you dont mind answering?
    Under the section ‘personal permanent address (address in country of your citizenship) does this mean your home address in your country of birth? I live in NZ but I am not a citizen. The word ‘citizenship is throwing me off. I presume I put my home address from birth and not my current permanent address?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Mairead,

      This question assumes that most people applying are either living in their home country or temporarily in another one (say, doing another working holiday). To complete this section I would guess that the majority of applicants enter in their parent’s (or mother’s, father’s) address in their home country since for most people this is unlikely to change. So if you still have family in your ‘home’ country (home being your country of citizenship) I would put this down but if you don’t put in your actual permanent address and then send CIC some more info about it through Kompass’s ‘MyMessages’ after you’ve submitted the app. (Edit 10th March)

      Good luck!

      • Mairead says:

        Hi Gemma,

        The time is coming closer to visa’s getting released now so lots of questions keep popping to mind! I have 2 if you don’t mind offering your opinion on?

        1. I recently renewed my Irish passport while living in New Zealand so I could have a long end date. This new passport is brand new and so does not have any stamps from countries or even my New Zealand Residency stamp transferred yet. The IEC asks:
        “Scan the above documents and have them ready to upload. You must scan every page of your passport that has been stamped, as well as the information page.”

        Since I have a new visa can I just scan the one page of my new passport, or should I also scan the Residency stamp in my old passport but which has the old passport number? It technically a new passport so I feel like its just the first page and don’t worry about the rest.

        2.My second question is in regards to the notice the IEC gives. When it gives 24hours notice is this 24hr Ottawa time, or Vancouver time ? SInce I’m in New Zealand it potentially is the middle of the night for me so I want to make sure I get the right time zone :)

        Thanks for any advice you can offer me. Its so lovely to have someone like you offering us all advice. Much appreciated!!!

        Cheers,
        Maggie

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi again,

          No problem!

          1. I would just scan the info page. If it is a brand new passport and there are absolutely no stamps, there is nothing to scan. When arriving in Canada, bring your old passport just in case (something that is good practice anyway if you have changed your passport recently)

          2. It would be the Ottawa time zone being that the IEC people are based there. The UK applications opened last year at 10am Ottawa time, if that helps with your calcuations at all! I would expect each quota to on different days so it is likely that New Zealand will not be the first country ‘up’ so to speak, and then you can see what happens!

  42. Silka says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Just a quick question; I currently have a New Zealand passport which expires in August 2015. I live in Australia and I am a citizen of Australia. I have just sent off for a new Australian passport but I doubt it will get here in time before the quota for IEC opens in a few days. Can I use my NZ passport to secure my place in the IEC and then change the details to my new Australian passport once it arrives?

    Thanks a lot,

    Silka.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Silka,

      You can only apply to each country’s quota with a passport from that country i.e. Australia quota with Australian passport, New Zealand quota with New Zealand passport. So applying to the Australian quota with the NZ passport would not work. You could however apply to the New Zealand scheme with the New Zealand passport – both programs offer a 24 month work permit this year. If you do receive your Australian passport in time, you can apply to both programs, I added a FAQ about this the other day.

  43. Jacob says:

    Hey there Gemma,

    Another quick question. I am born and bred and living in New Zealand. Never been to Canada before and I am really interested in coming to Canada. If I was to apply for the IEC visa through a international working holiday company and at the end of the one year visa from what you know is there any chance I could extend the visa or change to a different status – say if I had a job extension from a company in Canada.

    Or is it just best to apply for the visa myself and save the money and not use a working holiday company.

    Hope this makes sense
    Many Thanks Jacob

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      Firstly, it appears that the IEC working holiday work permit for New Zealanders will be 24 months this year. Most working holiday companies require you to apply for the IEC work permit yourself anyway (i.e. they can’t actually do it for you) so unless there is some other service you wanted (general advice, ‘group’ flight out there, two arrival nights in a hostel, orientation…) I wouldn’t advise you to go with a company. There may indeed be a chance for you to extend your stay in Canada after the IEC work permit has run out, but this depends on your job role and employer. A working holiday company would not really be able to help you with this. Good luck!

  44. Nick says:

    Hi Gemma, amazing guide, thank you!
    I have a quick question, do we definitely need to scan pages from our passport that have stamps on them? I have a previous visa stapled in there, but I could easily just take it out. Should I scan that too?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Nick, good to hear from you! Really enjoyed reading your blog when you and Natalie were in Vancouver. Good to hear you guys are thinking about coming back!

      Yep, you must scan every single page of your passport with any marks or stamps on them for stage two. Sounds overkill but hey. I doubt that the visa (I’m guessing previous IEC work permit?) would need to be scanned since there are usually corresponding stamps on the page too, but to be honest you might as well just do it. More information is always better with the CIC! It’s more likely that they would penalise you for NOT putting it in (i.e. if you didn’t have it and they decided to ask, it would slow down your application) than if you did and they didn’t need it. Hope that makes sense.

  45. Vikfee says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I now you heard that many times, but I would like to express my grace to you. You are truly changing peoples life and helping to people make their dreams happen.

    I would like to ask you one question about residency requirement. I am from Slovak Republic, and I participated the IEC WH program in 2013. (I came to Canada in September 2013 and left in July 2014). Then, in October 2014 I came to Canada again as student and currently studying in Calgary. My Study permit is valid till January 2016. I would like to apply for IEC 2015 in category Young Professionals; I already have all documents collected including the Job offer. However, I have recently found there is residency requirement for my country, which has made me worried.

    I physically live in Canada now since October 2014, but my permanent residency is in Slovak Republic. I am also able to get document from Slovakian government proving my permanent residency. ( as I still pay insurance, have bank and other affairs there). Does IEC consider permanent residency or residency where I am physically when checking for this requirement ?

    It is a bit confusing, because in most asked questions in cic.gc.ca in category IEC is written that one can apply for IEC work permit if holding study permit.

    Thank you very much for your help,

    Take care,

    Vikfee

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Vikfee,

      To be completely honest, I don’t know. I have been able to find a ‘resident’ definition under the Slovak Republic infomation. It could be it is found within the application guide, but this is currently offline. It was meant to be updated and live again ‘no later than mid-February.’ I’m really sorry I can’t help you any further! Wishing you the best of luck though.

      • Vikfee says:

        Hi Gemma,

        thank you for your respond. I have talked to immigration agent and was told I can apply from Canada.

        However, regarding the previous changes from 21st February, employers are required to send Offer of Employment form and pay compliance fee $230 if they want to hire LMIA exempt foreign worker on Employer-specific work permit.

        I am wondering if this affects Young professionals category, because it seems to comply those conditions – Employer-specific work permit and LMIA-exempt.

        What is your insight in this issue ? Do new changes affect all the applicants planning to apply for IEC work permit waiting with their job offers ?

        Thank you!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Vikfee,

          Yes it does appear that the new compliance system and fee will be applicable to those applying within the IEC Young Professionals category. The starting date on the CIC notice (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2015-02-09.asp) was February 21st, so it does look like it will affect those applying in the 2015 IEC program. I don’t know any more details I’m afraid! Croatia’s IEC working holiday program opened this morning but its Young Professionals category did not, so I don’t know of any more info out there on the subject.

          edit – Vikfee, I’ve just found more info in the new IEC application guide – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/IEC.asp about half way down under “Complete and submit the IEC application form”

          • Vikfee says:

            Hi Gemma,

            Thank you for you previous help.

            I have noticed in the update from 4th March that some applicants from countries with more than 1 category are able to fill up the majority of application. However, I am somehow unable to enter to registration form, as when going to Slovakia / Young professionals it just says “the category is will reopen soon”.

            If you have the link for the registration of Kompass for my contry, can you please post it here for me ?

            Thank you.

            Vikfee

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Vikfee,

            There are no programs for Slovakia currently open. As soon as one does open, you will be able to create a Kompass account and fill out the application as per my advice. I will rephrase how I explained it when I next update the guide to make this clearer.

  46. Max says:

    Hi Gemma thanks so much for putting together this very helpful guide. I am hoping to apply if they open applications soon as I turn 31 on March 11th. So if the rules stay the same as last year and I apply straight away my application should be accepted?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Max,

      Going by previous participant’s experiences (and previous rules), as long as you have completed Step 1 & 2 of Stage 1 before you turn 31 you should be OK. Hope it opens soon for you!

  47. Luca says:

    Hi Gemma

    Any other news about when the program will open? it still says Mid-February even if is almost the end..!

    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Luca,

      I have no insider knowledge I’m afraid! Hopefully soon, but there are around 32 IEC programs (I think) that were all estimated to open ‘mid-Feb’ so keep in mind that your own country may not be the first one!

  48. Holly says:

    Hi Gemma,

    In order to do something with all the nervous energy waiting for the applications to open I started filling in the application forms for stage 2 in my CIC account so that it’s all ready to go if I get a place, just to upload the CAL.
    I’m a bit confused by some of the application forms though and was wondering if you had any recollection or idea about some of the questions.

    Firstly, it asks for a labour market opinion number – i’m still confused by that whole thing, I think it doesn’t apply to those of us just going on an open working holiday visa so put n/a but thought i’d better check so as not to have issues later.

    Also it asks about previous employment, do you think I need to put every single previous employer even if it was just a 1 month internships, although I did get paid, or when I au-paired last summer in Spain. Because in Spain au pairs aren’t treated like employees, it’s very casual within europe, no registration or taxes, so I don’t even know whether to consider that employment for their purposes.

    Thanks for any help, hopefully all the preparation will bring me good luck! :)

  49. Silka says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I’ve read this guide again and I have to say, I feel so much more confident in applying for my IEC! You helped me earlier with my first question, so thank you! Out of curiousity, do you know how far apart each round is? I am hoping my new Australian Passport arrives in 3 days time and I would hate to miss out on the 2nd round, as I fear I may miss out on the first round due to delay of my passport.

    Thanks :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Silka,

      The 2014 UK quota was released as follows (as an example): 12th December, 17th December, 21st January. I would assume the large gap between the 2nd and 3rd was due to Christmas and also reconciliation before the third and final round. Good luck!

  50. Adrian says:

    Hey Gemma

    Very in depth process description.

    The iec website no longer mentions participation before 2011 not counting towards the iec. It now says Those who participated in IEC more than once before 2015 are no longer eligible to apply.

    Do you think that this means my 2010 participation counts towards my eligibility?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Adrian,

      You are quite right that the UK eligibility info has been changed again. The text now reads exactly as it did in the 30th January bilateral agreement* – the same one that also states that ‘Participation in International Experience Canada (IEC) with a recognized organization does not count towards the frequency of participation allowed by the specific country agreements.’ Whether or not your 2010 participation counts is hinged on whether BUNAC is accepted as a recongised organisation. Back in 2010, you HAD to apply through BUNAC to go to Canada, so to me it seems likely that BUNAC will be considered a recognised organisation (it’s ‘partner organisation’ SWAP is listed on the accepted list right now) and therefore you would be able to participate. However, the text regarding that participation with a recognised organisation is only found on the bilateral agreement release and not on the UK’s IEC page at this time. So my answer is that it could go either way at this stage! I wish I had a better answer for you.

      *http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/opinion/experience/bilat.asp

      • Calvin says:

        Hi Gemma,

        I spoke with you a week ago on this very matter. It’s so confusing. My girlfriend and I are just looking for some clarity on the situation, so thanks very much for all of your help looking into this. I’ve sent a few emails to the CIC so I hear back I’ll update you on here.

        Thanks again,
        Calvin

  51. Francesca Lewis says:

    Hello :) I find your guide an AMAZING help and i am fully prepared with all my police checks and cv etc! BUT.. just want your advice! will you have to get a medical in order to apply for the 24 month visa? because i have a feeling you will! and i obviously don’t have enough time to do so etc before the visa may come out!? i remember when i applied for my nz visa as a british citizen, i could have got a straight 24 month one but you needed a medical so i didn’t bother BUT wish i had because it is so much easier and cheaper to sort it from the uk! so yeah just wondering do you reckon you will need one to apply for the 24 month visa!?! if so how on earth do they expect people to know this and have time in 7 days to submit it!!! thankyoux

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Francesca,

      The IEC started offering 24 month work permits to Irish participants recently but a medical was still only required if the person wanted to work in health services and child care. So no, I think it is very unlikely British participants will have to get medicals when the program starts to offer 24 month work permits. It actually may be possible for the 2015 program that British citizens do not actually need a medical at all, even if working in the health services – the bilateral agreement document dated January 30th* states ‘no requirement’ for the medical.

      *http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/opinion/experience/bilat.asp

      For the 7 day requirement for stage 2, take note of the section in my guide that states –

      If you do not have the required documents within the time you need to submit them (police checks, medical proof if applicable) you can upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ (self-created) to explain why. Upload as much as you can and provide as much proof as you can regarding the missing documentation.

      Extensions are possible if the participant has not received the required documentation in time, so don’t worry!

  52. Rachael says:

    Hi Gemma

    How are you?

    I’m just wondering where can I get a medical check by a Canadian approved physician? Is there s certain doctor or can I go to the hospital for this check?

    Besides for the police certificate and the scan of my passport is there any other documents I should have ready for the Kompass account application?

    I have been checking the Twitter and IEC for updates but it still says it won’t open before mid-February, do you know when they opened last year?

    Thanks again,
    Rachael

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachael,

      The medical must be performed by a Panel Physician – you can choose one in Canada or elsewhere. The list is available here – http://www.cic.gc.ca/pp-md/pp-list.aspx

      The police certificate is required for Stage Two, not Stage One. I have mentioned it in regards to preparing for the opening as processing can take some time in certain countries. The only documents you need for Stage One is the scan of the passport page and resume in CIC’s required format. For the Kompass application, you should make sure you have the correct information to hand, ready to fill in for the first couple of steps.

      The IEC program opened for the UK in mid-December last year. It changes every year, so it is hard to say when the UK program will open. The CIC announced the opening of the IEC season today, with Croatia’s working holiday program starting first.

      The best of luck to you!

      • Rachael says:

        Hi Gemma

        Thanks for the reply. I’m actually hoping to apply for the Irish IEC, do you know when they may open or when they did last year? Apologies I did not mention that in the previous post.

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rachael,

          As far as I know, the Irish IEC program opened in January last year.

          • Rachael says:

            Hi Gemma

            Oh – do you think it has already opened and closed for 2015 visas?

            Sorry for all the questions just a little worried now.

            Thanks again,
            Rachael

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Rachael,

            As per the guide (see updates), the IEC season opened yesterday. Each country’s program will now individually open one by one. Ireland’s program has not opened yet for 2015.

          • Kaja says:

            Hello Gemma!

            Thank you for the best guide ever! =D

            I have a very important question. I saw, that you need to write your Family MATCHING PASSPORT!? Well, my Family name includes letter S with a caret (Š) and some friends told me, that if I will write a letter S with a caret (Š), the system wont let me continue, but if I write letter S instead letter Š, my Family name wont be the same as in the passport… What should I do? Do you have any advise? Im desperate! =/

            Thank you very much!!*

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Kaja,

            I’m afraid I do not know the answer to your question. I have spent some time trying to find out, but I have not been able to find any information on it. If I hear anything I will let you know.

      • Rachael says:

        Hi Gemma

        I’m actually looking to apply for the Canadian visa from Ireland. Do you know when they may be open or when they opened last year?

        Thanks
        Rachael

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          I’m not sure if my comments are working correctly right now as I replied a couple of hours ago, but just in case – As far as I know, the Irish IEC program opened in January last year, after the British one. With the IEC season starting today, it will be any day now.

  53. George says:

    Hi there, just to get it out of the way, your guide is by far the most informative and helpful!
    But I do have to ask this question: where should I be checking for any updates regarding The IEC for Poland?
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp?country=pl&cat=wh
    Because all it says is “2015 season will not open before mid-February” and that’s it.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Yep, that’s the one George! In the short time since you posted this message I have noticed that the ‘2015 season will not open….’ bit has now disappeared. Keep your eyes on the section that says ‘Quota’ ‘Spots Available’ and ‘Status.’ The IEC did claim that dates/times of opening would be announced on their Twitter page, but this did not happen for Croatia. I would hope they follow through for the other countries!

  54. Agnes says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thank you so much for this up-to-date info. It is very helpful.

    I am a French citizen who wants to apply to the Canada Working Holiday Visa program.

    I have a question…I have never lived in France (only visited), so I am wondering, will I need to submit a France police record check? I saw elsewhere that the police record checks only need to be submitted for countries in which you lived 6 months or more since the age of 18. Since France is my country of citizenship but I have never lived there, will I need to submit a French police record check?

    Also, my second question is, when I completed the CIC Come to Canada wizard, there is no link for “police certificates”. Is this normal? I have heard some people say you need to submit the police certificates by mail, rather than electronically…is this true and if so where is the address we need to send it to?

    Thanks

    Agnes

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Agnes,

      The official line is “You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18.” So on the basis on that I would say no. During the IEC process (Stage 2) you have to detail your employment history, so this would help make it clear that you have never lived in France.

      When you say there is ‘no link’ on the wizard – so the requirement of a police certificate does not come up for you at all? Does your list of required documentation look different to one I have included in this guide? I’ve not heard of police certificates being sent by post, not since postal application were stopped a few years ago. Most of my knowledge (95%) is based on the British and Irish application route, so it is possible that it is just something I don’t know about.

      • Agnes says:

        Hi Gemma,

        For the list of documentation I received through the CIC Come to Canada wizard, I have all the same documents listed as you in the example except for the police certificate. I completed the wizard a second time, and again, there is no request for a police certificate. Do you have any advice on what to do about this?

        Also, for the Family Information form, I am confused about whether I would have to submit the IMM5707 form or the IMM5645 Additional Family Information form. It says at the bottom of the IMM5707 that it is only for certain categories of applicants which is rather confusing to me because of the way it is written. Which did you submit in the past?

        thanks

        Agnes

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Agnes,

          Re: IMM5707. There is indeed a pretty confusing part at the end of the form. IMM5707 correct form for you to fill out. The bit referring to people from Saudi Arabia, Brazil etc. refers only to those that are UNDER 18. So if you are OVER 18, this is the right form for you. If you were from Brazil and under 18 it would also be the correct one. Note the use of the ‘or’ and ‘and.’ However, even if you did sbumit IMM5645 it is still likely to be accepted.

          Re: police cert – I went through the questionnaire pretending I was from France and indeed, it doesn’t come up. Following some advice, I have a look at the IEC bilateral agreement again – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/opinion/experience/bilat.asp – it confirms that French (as well as Spanish and people from Hong Kong) applicants do not need a police certificate from France.

  55. Sarah says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Where do you find the opening times for each country so that you know when you can Login to create a kompass account? Croatia seems to be all gone already but did they get notice or will all the countries just open at any time and you need to be constantly checking to not miss your opening time?

    Thanks
    Sarah

    • Francesca Lewis says:

      hello :) yeah i was wondering too! do they just randomly get released without any warning?! I’m seriously stressing how on earth i will know when they are released for the uk!!! surely they should warn us! its only fair.. :( i will be at work and won’t be able to constantly check so was hoping for some warning!! shhhhhh what am i gonna do!!!!!!!!!! x

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Francesca, this is a copy and paste of a reply I just sent to someone else –

        It is unclear whether Croatian applicants had much, if any, notice. There was nothing on the official IEC Twitter (@IEC_EIC) as the IEC said there would be (72 hour advance warning of date/24 hour advance notice of time) but some people have said there was something on a Croatia-only IEC Twitter page but it has been since deleted. So your guess is as good as mine!

        If I were you, I’d join one of the many IEC Facebook groups – as soon as any info is heard/seen, the messages are sure to go crazy!

        I’m also trying to keep this guide as updated as I can, but I am only human after all so I wouldn’t want people to only rely on me.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sarah,

      It is unclear whether Croatian applicants had much, if any, notice. There was nothing on the official IEC Twitter (@IEC_EIC) as the IEC said there would be (72 hour advance warning of date/24 hour advance notice of time) but some people have said there was something on a Croatia-only IEC Twitter page but it has been since deleted. So your guess is as good as mine!

      If I were you, I’d join one of the many IEC Facebook groups – as soon as any info is heard/seen, the messages are sure to go crazy!

      I’m also trying to keep this guide as updated as I can, but I am only human after all so I wouldn’t want people to only use me as a source.

  56. James says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Thanks for your previous reply and the continuous updates!

    Are we likely to receive any pre warning on the time it will open for UK citizens? Or does it just open suddenly?

    Many thanks,

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi James, here’s a copy and paste of the answer I just gave to others –

      It is unclear whether Croatian applicants had much, if any, notice. There was nothing on the official IEC Twitter (@IEC_EIC) as the IEC said there would be (72 hour advance warning of date/24 hour advance notice of time) but some people have said there was something on a Croatia-only IEC Twitter page but it has been since deleted. So your guess is as good as mine!

      If I were you, I’d join one of the many IEC Facebook groups – as soon as any info is heard/seen, the messages are sure to go crazy!

      I’m also trying to keep this guide as updated as I can, but I am only human after all so I wouldn’t want people to only use me as a source.

  57. John Roberts says:

    I’m devastated, I missed the UK program, I was relying on a tweet from IEC that never came :(

    I didn’t notice until it was completely closed, so didn’t even get a kompass account – arse there any second chances at this or is the waiting list only for people who got in today?

    I feel completely empty – it was my only chance before I turn 31. Just numb

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi John,

      You haven’t missed it! The IEC season opened today, starting with Croatia. The UK program has not opened yet. Have hope!

    • Holly says:

      The UK quota for this year hasn’t opened yet.

      Today they released the quota for Croatia with no notice but this is the ONLY country to be released so far according to what everyone can see.

      The UK quota will hopefully open soon, and hopefully they will give us 72 hours notice like they promised, but they promised that to Croatia too and failed to deliver. Just keep checking the website as much as possible is the best thing to do and also join this FB group to keep up to date with everything. https://www.facebook.com/groups/153353648208227/ and also this forum http://www.experiencecanada.co.uk/

      But no it’s not been yet so don’t panic you’ve not missed out!

  58. Rachel says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I also would like to know if they ‘just open it’ or if they give you warning? Thanks
    Rachel

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachel, here’s a copy and paste of the answer I have given others –

      It is unclear whether Croatian applicants had much, if any, notice. There was nothing on the official IEC Twitter (@IEC_EIC) as the IEC said there would be (72 hour advance warning of date/24 hour advance notice of time) but some people have said there was something on a Croatia-only IEC Twitter page but it has been since deleted. So your guess is as good as mine!

      If I were you, I’d join one of the many IEC Facebook groups – as soon as any info is heard/seen, the messages are sure to go crazy!

      I’m also trying to keep this guide as updated as I can, but I am only human after all so I wouldn’t want people to use me as their only source.

  59. Alan says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Great website. I have just recently decided to apply for the working holiday visa, but I notice it is not currently possible to register for a Kompass account (living in Ireland).
    So until this unknown time when it becomes possible to register, I cannot apply for the CAL?
    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Alan,

      That is correct. As soon as the program opens, you will be able to register for a Kompass account and apply for a CAL. If you complete the application before the quota runs out, you will receive a ‘reserved’ place on the program provided all of your information is correct. Until it opens, it is a waiting game.

      Good luck!

  60. Kristy knox says:

    So I have a plain and simple question….just so I have it right in my head… When it comes to scrambling for a WTN (stage 1) all we need is….

    Personal details (address, DOB etc)
    Passport details
    Resume in the format they like
    Then stage 2 is the nitty gritty?

    Just so I know I have everything there for getting the stage 1
    Thx in advance
    X

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Kristy,

      Essentially, yes, however not all of Stage 1 is a scramble. Only personal and passport details are required for the first couple of stages, which are indeed a bit of a scramble. Then you effectively have a ‘reserved’ place and 10 days to provide passport scan, resume and payment. Stage 2 is indeed the nitty gritty side of things, with the immigration forms, police cert etc. Best of luck

  61. Ellie says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Awesome website! I wanted to check with you, I am applying using my Australian passport but i have previously applied using my English passport, I’m currently here in Canada on my English passport and English IEC Visa. Do I go through the whole process, stage 1 and 2 as if i haven’t applied before then when i receive my POE after stage 2 i then email them declaring previous participation?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ellie,

      The advice listed on the FAQ about applying to two separate IEC programs is aimed at people with two passports applying for the same year of IEC. Your plan however does sound like the best idea though, applying as if you haven’t before and then declaring it later, just to be sure.

  62. Jacob says:

    Hi
    Just completed my first IEC which expired 25th Jan 2015 so back in England.
    I jumped the gun a bit and applied for a police certificate in October 2014 anticipating the same release dates for the 2014 cycle.
    It is dated 4th November so will it still be eligible because a) i was in Canada at the time and/or b) its not dated within 3 months and is considered invalid?
    Please help me with any advice if i need to apply for another
    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      Your police certificate(s) “must be issued no more than three months” (CIC criteria) before you submit them in Stage 2. So with your certificate being dated 4th November, it looks like it is already out of date. It has nothing to do with being in Canada at the time.

  63. Ginta says:

    Hi! First of all, thank you for this great article, it’s massively helpful! The applications for my country will open anytime now, however, I just discovered my passport expires in less than a year. I’m running to change it today but I wont get the new passport until 2 weeks from now. Hence, I’ll have to enter my old passport data when registering on Kompass. Do you think that will reduce my possible maximum stay in Canada?
    Thanks in advance!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ginta,

      Apply with your ‘old’ but still valid passport and then on arrival in Canada explain that you have a new passport. Bring your old passport just in case. The work permit is not issued until you get to Canada so the length of the permit is sorted then and there. Before you leave the border office, double check that your new passport number is own your work permit and you have been given the correct length of time. If you leave without checking, it is a lot more hassle to sort it out later.

  64. Leanne says:

    Hello there,

    I am just wondering for the Working Holiday Visa would I be able to get a job as a secondary school teacher or substitute teacher or would I need to apply to the Young Professional Visa for that?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Leanne,

      The IEC working holiday program includes an open work permit. This means you can do any job in Canada you like, however it is necessary to have a medical exam done if you do want to work with children or in the health services. As a side note, I have heard that it is difficult for foreigners to work as regular school teachers (as opposed to English as a Second Language for example) in Canada due to qualification requirements. If you’re British, check out the ‘British Expats’ forum, they have a useful wiki and great forums for info.

  65. Dan says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thanks for posting this guide, it’s really helpful! Me and my girlfriend have had everything ready to make the application however I have noticed today the website has changed and it says the working holiday IEC is now closed however the quota is 0?! Do you know whether the programme has opened and been filled already or where I might be able to get more information? We’ve been watching this throughout the month now and I’d hate to have missed it!

    Thanks
    Dan

  66. Kristy knox says:

    Do you need a copy of passport to create compass and get WTN? Or just the details to type in? Xx

  67. Agnes says:

    Hi Gemma,

    For some reason I am not able to respond directly to your earlier response.

    So for the police certificates, I understand that as a French citizen I do not need to submit one from France…however I also lived in Japan last year for about 10 months. I know I will need to submit a Japanese police certificate but how can I submit it if there is no link for a police certificate submission when I complete the CIC Come to Canada wizard??

    Thanks

    Agnes

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Agnes,

      Sorry, yes I understand now. I would submit your scan/copy under ‘Letter of Explanation’ under ‘optional documents.’ If you have any other documents to submit in addition to that one, combine them all into one PDF.

  68. Amy Bethany says:

    Hello,

    I am going to apply for my second IEC visa for Canada (I am from the UK). I am a little confused, and was hoping someone with previous experience could help me. When setting up my kompass account when the quote opens , can I use the same email/username/password as last year. I know I need to create a new account but I am unsure if I can use the same credentials such as username? Would you advise I use a different username and email?

    Thanks,

    Amy

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Amy,

      You can use the same email/username/password as last year, going by the experiences of people last year applying for their 2nd. Good luck!

  69. Calvin says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Just to update you and your many followers, I got a response for the CIC today, and they have informed me that apps before 2011 (ir Bunac) now DO count, thefore in my situation and (and I’m sure a few others) I am unable to apply. I’m worried the info given to me is incorrect – how can SWAP not count and Bunac count – but thought I would share with you. I have a long term Canadian GF so I guess my next route is common-law.

    ThanK’s again for your excellent blog,

    Calvin

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Calvin,

      I’m sorry to hear you won’t be able to apply as per the email CIC have sent you. Do you mind sending/forwarding me a copy of the email? It would help to advise others. If you need any help regarding the common law route, let me know. My email address is gemma[at]offtracktravel.ca

  70. Katie says:

    Hi Gemma
    Thank you so much for this site! It really is beyond helpful!
    I have a question for you, and would really appreciate any light you might be able to shed on the subject, as I am really struggling to find anyone who can give me a straight answer on this! I am currently in Canada on my first IEC work permit, which runs out on April 2, 2015. I have been told by some that if my new work permit application is being processed when my old one runs out, I may hold implied status until a decision is reached on my visa. Do you know if this is the case?
    Love to hear back from you,
    Thanks in advance, Katie

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Katie,

      There is a lot of confusion over this subject – it’s a very common question.

      There is NO implied status between IEC work permits. The IEC is an ‘outside’ Canada application, meaning that even if you are in Canada already and applying from it there, you still need to hop the border to activate it. You will notice that some of the forms refer to applying ‘outside’ – this often confuses people who are applying physically inside Canada. There are various Permanent Residency routes that are considered ‘inside/inland’ Canada applications, which entitle the applicant to implied status i.e. inland spousal sponsorship. IEC is definitely not one of these.

      You will need to apply for a visitor’s visa to stay longer in Canada OR go to the border to get another few months stamped on your passport. If you do the former (apply online or via mail), you will have ‘implied status’ from the moment your application is sent but is is implied VISITOR status. The IEC cannot be extended and implied ‘working’ status does not apply to it.

      One thing you may hear from people is the tactic of applying for an open work permit (not IEC) and this will offer ‘implied working status’ until it is inevitably refused. This is not a legal move either – people on the IEC are not eligible for this kind of implied status.

      I think the way you have to see it is the IEC is just CIC’s ‘work and holiday program.’ Previous to 2015 they were offering Brits 2 x one year work permits. Each work permit is seen as a separate entity i.e. the application process is the same every time, even though it may be your second. The IEC is intended to encourage young people to travel Canada and work to supplement their funds – it is not intended as a direct route to Permanent Residency, so the CIC does not confer IEC applicants with any special rights or powers to stay longer after their permits have expired.

      More info on the lack of implied status with IEC work permits here – http://britishexpats.com/forum/immigration-citizenship-canada-33/implied-status-iec-815262/

  71. Colm says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have a quick question you may be able to helpwith. Do you know is it possible to register for Kompass and verify your account if the Kompass site has been opened for you country but not the specific Visa you wish to apply for?

    Using France as an example, the young professional and international coop visas were released last week for France but not the working holiday visa, however for people wanting to apply for the French working holiday visa can they now register with Kompass(as it is now open due to the other 2 visas being released) and wait for the working holiday quota to be released?

    I am not French and will not be applying through the French quota, just using it as an example.

    Thank you for all the useful information so far.

    Kind Regards,
    Colm

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Colm,

      Based on the experience of many applicants in 2014, YES you can do this! You can open a Kompass account, take your time to fill out the CAL application (step 1 and step 2 of Stage 1) and then wait for France’s working holiday program to open. As soon as it does, you can log back in, select ‘working holiday’ and then click submit!

      It is a nice little shortcut available to applicants of countries which have more than one IEC program. So for British applicants, it sadly is not applicable (just in case any are reading)

  72. Anthony says:

    Hello Gemma,

    My sincerest thanks for such an excellent website and blog – it really does make the whole process easier for everyone applying… so thank you again.

    Just following on from Colm’s question above, is it possible to use the same Kompass account for two different countries? For example, I have dual nationality. If I open a Kompass account when one of my countries opens, can I use the same Kompass account when my other country opens? If I have to use new details, can I at least use the same e-mail address?

    Apologies if you already answered this somewhere.

    Best regards,

    Anthony

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Anthony,

      Kompass accounts are nationality specific, so you would need two accounts. As for using the same email address, I’m not 100% but I would imagine so, due to the aforementioned point. Hope that helps!

  73. Mairead says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I too would like to pick up on Colms question if you wouldn’t mind providing some advice. When the Kompass opens for say “a young professional visa”, but you are waiting to apply for a working holiday one, do you have a good length of time to fill out the kompass, or only until the quota lasts and people submit?

    My second question is when the visa’s for working holidays open do you have to wait to log in for the exact minute they go live, press working holiday under the ‘Current IEC Participation’ section and then submit, thats it??

    Many thanks,
    Mairead

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Mairead,

      My understanding of this is that you have as much time as you want – Kompass will not ‘kick you out’ if the quota is gone so you can stay in there and complete the application (minus choosing which IEC program you want to participate in)

      Yes!

  74. milasaki says:

    Hi Gemma – this is a super super useful page!
    Just wondering if you can offer any advice on fillling out questions 7/8/9 for stage 2, whilst in the country? I have a lot of people saying to “lie”about your current place of residence as they say you can’t apply from inside Canada? I’m really confused – i don’t want to risk lying, but also don’t want to be denied? The CIC says you can’t apply from inside Canada, but nearly everyone i know who’s done a second participation applied from within. Please help? :)
    I saw the CIC comment here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=181&t=25
    I’m really confused! Why would they ask you for current participation, and then have conflicting information on the page?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Milasaki,

      You are allowed to apply while residing or visiting Canada. Fill in the forms stating you are currently in Canada.

      The IEC is considered an ‘outside’ Canada application, as it has to be activated upon entry into Canada i.e. if you receive it while you are in Canada you must go to the border to actually receive it. Some of the forms do ineed refer to applying ‘outside’ – this often confuses people who are applying physically inside Canada. There are various Permanent Residency routes that are considered ‘inside/inland’ Canada applications, which entitle the applicant to implied visitor or working status i.e. inland spousal sponsorship. IEC is definitely not one of these (and this is what the CIC question/answer you linked to refers to)

      Definitely do not lie – if you are in Canada, say that is where you are. It is no problem. I applied for my second IEC being in Canada.

  75. Kaja says:

    Hello Gemma!

    Thank you for the best guide ever! =D

    I have a very important question. I saw, that you need to write your Family MATCHING PASSPORT!? Well, my Family name includes letter S with a caret (Š) and some friends told me, that if I will write a letter S with a caret (Š), the system wont let me continue, but if I write letter S instead letter Š, my Family name wont be the same as in the passport… What should I do? Do you have any advise? Im desperate! =/

    Thank you very much! =)

    • Stacey says:

      Hello, did you figure out what to put for your family name on your Kompass account? I am trying to register for my boyfriend but he has a ß in his family name and when we try to register it says they only accept Latin characters.

      Thanks,

      Stacey

  76. Dominic says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Awesome article.

    I actually hoped you wouldn’t mind talking to me about your PR under common law, I’m of course hoping to get in this time for the IEC but im also British and hoping to go back for my Canadian girlfriend with PR under common law in the future. How did you go about this? Was it difficult? Any pointers for it by chance?

    Thanks for your time.

    Dom

  77. max says:

    Hi Gemma I am trying to register with kompass for the Australia program however kompass keeps taking me back to the main cic website asking me what country i am from?

    Is this happening when anyone else tries it?

  78. Francesca Lewis says:

    hey again! lol :) I’m trying to do the cic stage just so its done but I’m a tad confused! I’ve done my working visas in oz and nz before and i have got police checks from these places but there is nowhere to upload these on the cic page?! it asked me earlier if i have lived in any of the designated countries for more than 6 months and clicked no as i thought that meant the countries which you require a medical for?!?! so i clicked no but now I’m thinking i should have pressed yes :/ also i got arrested when i was 15 for stealing :( very shameful i know! do i have to write a letter to upload saying what i was arrested for on the cic bit as i had previously said yes when it asked have you been arrested?! its so confusing! how do i go back and change my selection of the country thing?! because i think i have done it wrong if you get me?!! xxx

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Francesca,

      If you’re British then it definitely should have come up with a space to submit police certs. The question about living in designated countries is indeed related to medicals, not police certs. If I were you, I would cancel the current application you have open and then re-do the ‘Come to Canada’ questionnaire to get a new code. Regarding your arrest record, upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ and talk about how you were young, regret it fully, matured a lot since then and how it in no way represents who you are now etc.

    • Francesca Lewis says:

      do you have a link or a blog or something on how to do stage 2? I’m so confused! is there any help anywhere?!?! it doesn’t even ask me if I’ve ever lived abroad? so at the end of the quiz thing, it says nothing about uploading my abroad police checks??!?! so so confused!!!!!! where is a guide or info?

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Francesca,

        Just going to copy over the reply I gave you on Facebook for others reading – No, the Come to Canada questionnaire does not ask where else you have lived in regards to police certs (only for the medical). You merge PDF scans of your police certs from other countries and upload them as one document to the police cert section of MyCIC. Info on whether you need police certs here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/intro.asp

  79. Leanne says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Thanks so much for your response to my last question. I do have another one ! I have applied through Kompass for the Young Pfoessional Visa and I am waiting the 48 hours to recieve acceptance. So I really have just completed stage 2. But I now want to apply for the Working Holiday Visa instead. If I withdraw from Young Pro now as soon as possible can I apply for the Working Holiday Visa ? I am just worried that IEC wont get back to me to confirm that I have withdrawn. I dont want to miss the opening of the Working Holiday Visas. Do you think Id be ok to withdraw and apply for the other visa?

    Thanks Gemma.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Leanne,

      I would withdraw your YP application and then go ahead and apply for the Working Holiday. I don’t know of any reason why you would’t be able to have ‘both’ running at the same time. Others may do this too and then just not pay the $150 to get their YP CAL and then that application would be cancelled by IEC anyway.

  80. Rashna Singh says:

    Hi
    I’ve heard Italain citizens only get a work permit under IEC for 6 months. Would you know if it’s true?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rashna,

      According to the IEC page for Italy, Italian citizens get a 1 year work and travel permit but cannot work for longer than six months. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp?country=it&cat=wh

      • Rashna Singh says:

        Thanks Gemma, just another question thats been bothering us. It says that you must be a resident of Italy at the time of application. My partner who is an Italian citizen is now a permanent resident in Australia. Does that mean he’s not eligible to apply? Or as long as he puts an Italian residential address it’s fine?

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rashna,

          From what I understand of this, as long as you have a Italian residential address to enter on the application then it counts as being resident of that country.

          • Rashna Singh says:

            ohh ok so hopefully if you put you country of residence and the italian address down it should work? Do you know if I might be able to accompany him as a common law partner to Canada? I am from Fiji so need a visa to enter Canada. His occupation is on the skill list NOC B. I am getting conflicting answers, some websites say i can apply for a open work permit after he gets his conditional letter but other say he needs a job + LMIA.

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Rasha, that is just going by info I have read in passing. I don’t really know much about the Italian IEC.

            Edit regarding your second question –

            Regarding the work permit for you as his common law partner, this seems to be possible through the IEC IF your partner gets a skilled job within 6 months.

            http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=841&t=25
            http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=199&t=17

  81. Rob A says:

    Hi there!

    I’m british and my wife is german and we were both going to apply for working holiday. Though I have just seen that if I fall into a specific job sector, (I’m a chef and that I believe is sector b) then I can bring my spouse for the same period (24 months) aslong as I alone tick all the boxes. Is this all correct to your knowledge?? Ta

  82. Steven says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thanks for your great help.
    Would you recommend creating a MyCIC before the visa I am applying for comes out?
    I have started with my Kompass account already. Just waiting on the date :)

    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Steven,

      It’s completely up to you. If you have the time to do it now, great! The code from the ‘Come to Canada’ questionnaire runs out after 60 days, so at worst, you would have to re-do that and then upload all the documents again.

    • Aaron black says:

      Hey Gemma

      Couple quick questions, for if you have a police check and need it translated, it says it needs to be done by a certified translator. Is there a specific website that you know of etc that can do this? Also alot of people are saying that they have already done the kompass account to be ready and stuff, am i right in saying that you cannot do it now. Or if you do you just have to redo it when it opens, so there is no point in it? And you arent able to fill in any of the personal info yet to be ready?

      Aaron

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Aaron,

        Sorry, I don’t know anything about certified translators. The CIC glossary says that a certified translator is “a member in good standing of a provincial or territorial organization of translators and interpreters in Canada” but I’m not sure that really makes sense in this case since most applicants are not applying from within Canada.

        If you are applying from a country with multiple IEC programs (working holiday, international co-op and/or young professionals) you can indeed open a Kompass account once at least one program has opened. For example – the Irish Young Professionals program opened a couple of days ago which means anyone wanting to apply for ANY of the Irish IEC programs (working holiday included) can open a Kompass account and fill out the majority of the CAL application while the YP program still has places on the quota. They will then have to wait until their preferred category opens to finish the app and submit it. It will cut down a lot of the rush later. If you’re applying for the British IEC, you can’t do this since there is only the working holiday program.

  83. Sally says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Thanks for answering everyone’s comments. I have read them all and I’m pretty sure this hasn’t been covered!
    I applied in 2014, got my LOI in January 2015 so I have until January 2016 to enter Canada. Will I be able to get the 24 month permit or will it still be the 12 month permit? The CIC website says:

    “My Letter of Introduction (LOI) is valid for less time than it says on the IEC website. Can I extend it?

    No. You do not need to ask for an extension. You will get the total time you are entitled to as per the agreement between Canada and your country when you receive your work permit.

    International Experience Canada (IEC) participants normally receive an LOI that is valid for 12 months. If you underwent a medical exam, it will be valid until the expiry date of your medical exam or for 12 months, whichever is less.

    When you enter Canada, the officer will give you a work permit that will be valid for the time allowed by the agreement between Canada and your country.

    You may apply to extend your work permit if you do not receive the total time you are entitled to, as per your country agreement, when you arrive in Canada.”

    I don’t find it very clear!

    Thanks,
    Sally

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sally,

      Wow, that is a new one on me! My first reaction was “no” since I would have said that you will be given your work permit as per the year you applied. However that CIC FAQ answer makes it pretty confusing! It really does seem to suggest that you would be given the total time currently given to current applicants (24 months). I’ve been trying to think about why else they would have written that question unless for circumstances like this but I can only imagine in case of mistakes on the LoI? But if that happened I imagine the person would contact CIC right away and get it changed? So yeah, it really seems like it is in your favour. If I were you, I would print a copy of that to present to the border officer once you arrive in Canada, along with details of the current British IEC program (i.e. something clearly stating that it is now 24 months…with the important bits highlighted).

      • Sally says:

        Thanks! It’s partly because I want to have the right length of travel insurance, I don’t want to assume it’s 12 months, get there, then find out I could have had 24 months, if only I’d had 24 months of travel insurance!
        I’ve completed a case specific enquiry two months agobut no response from CIC yet!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Yes, that definitely makes it difficult. I was going to suggest going with an insurance company like True Traveller who can extend a policy, but I doubt you would be able to do that at the border!!! If you are leaving soon, I would email them again with URGENT somewhere in the title/text.

          I would love to hear the response when you have one? If you have the time, please send me an email! gemma[at]offtracktravel.ca

          • Sally says:

            I definitely will! I just need to get a response from them!

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            I would try and email them again Sally; I’ve seen people receive replies within 48 hours with ‘URGENT’ in the title!

  84. Samantha says:

    Hi, Do you happen to know when the working holiday visas usually come available for New Zealanders wanting to work in Canada?

  85. Emma says:

    FINALLY!!!! UK IEC 2015 date has been announced…..Thurs 12th March (I assume Round 1 only) will be released. Good luck everyone!

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp?country=gb&cat=wh

    • Anthony says:

      Sounds like it’s going to be a popular one… :)

    • Jacob says:

      I wonder what the quota is this time and if there will be more than one round. I got in last year on the second round

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Jacob,

        I am expecting a similar quota as last year (5350 off the top of my head) and 3 rounds. CIC’s servers simply couldn’t cope with one round for everyone!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Good luck Emma!!

      • Emma says:

        Thank you!

        A question which you may or may not be able to help with…..if (big IF!) I did end up securing a WH visa, say I secure this on 1st May 2015. I have until 30th April 2016 to enter Canada, and entering the country activates it? Can I enter Canada during this time and NOT activate my WH visa? I realise this a niche question and I’ve no idea where to find the answer!

  86. Sam says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have left everything a bit late as I have recently got back from 1 year in Aus. I have sent off for my Aus police check but I expect this will could take a while. If I was to send my UK police check straight away and then later on the Aus check when it arrives would they be ok with that. Maybe I should try for the second round of visa’s?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sam,

      Nice, hope you had an awesome time in Australia! In the MyCIC section of this guide there is the following –

      “If you do not have the required documents within the time you need to submit them (police checks, medical proof if applicable) you can upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ (self-created) to explain why. Upload as much as you can and provide as much proof as you can regarding the missing documentation.”

      CIC usually offer extensions for people waiting for things like police certs, so don’t worry! I would definitely apply for round 1 – don’t wait until round 2!

  87. Asim says:

    Hi,

    I’m quite confused about Canadian police certificates. I went to school and lived there after graduation, so I went out and got a police clearance letter from a station in toronto. They didn’t ask for fingerprints although the CIC website says that they would require the “fingerprint version.” I’m confused as to why they would provide me one without going through the fingerprint analysis. Should I not submit it during stage 2? Also, I didn’t know until you mentioned it that the IEC doesn’t require a Canadian cert, even if you’ve lived there. I can’t find that info on the website. Do you have a link that you can provide. Hope you can help, stressed and confused!

    Asim

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Asim,

      You definitely do not need a Canadian police cert unless specifically asked. There is a lot of info around on this, but here are some off the top of my head: IEC FAQs and within the CIC’s police check online tool. The latter is primarily aimed at people applying for Permanent Residence, but they always note if there are any specific differences for people applying for the IEC or another temporary work permit (and besides, if people applying for PR don’t generally need one, it would be very strange to require temporary work permit holders to get one).

      The RCMP offer a couple of different police certificates I think. I remember during my first IEC my employer requested a police check and I’m 99% sure I didn’t have to do fingerprints when I went to the RCMP to get it.

      • Asim says:

        Thanks Gemma,

        For the quick reply and the links. Yeah the story about Joe from morehawes needing fingerprints stressed me out since Im outside of Canada too, as well as the CIC website which said post July 2014 they require fingerprints for RCMP checks.

        Also, you answered the question about what to put in the “permanent residence – country of citizenship” address, for applicants that haven’t lived in the UK since they were kids, and I keep flip flopping on it. One minute I’m sure I’m going to put my childhood address down, the next I’m switching to my current address. I don’t know why they would put that “citizenship” add on if there isn’t a residency requirement and you’re already putting in your British passport info. I don’t know what to do. Should I just put my childhood address down, even though someone lives there now?

        I spoke to someone who applied in 2013 who was in the same boat as me and he mentioned he didn’t get an ACPO cert, he just sent in the certs from the countries he lived in after the age of 18 as is stated. I have my stuff ready to send to ACPO even though I haven’t lived there since I was 12. Should I just get the certificate and upload it stage 2 regardless?

        Lastly, According to the CIC “find out if you need a medical check” tool I need one due to my country being on the required list. They give you a choice of having an up front medical check or one which required withing 30 days of submitting your application based on instructions from the visa office.

        Should I just get the up front one since we only have a 14 day window after we’ve made our payment? Sorry for the long, this stuff is really keeping me up at night.

        Thanks again for step by step layout, that’s a true stress reliever!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Asim,

          I included the part about Joe’s experience mainly because it was so awful and I’d hate for someone else to go through a similar thing (he had his fingerprints rejected three times I think!)

          If your application country does not have a residency requirement (Slovakia and Italy do), you do **not** need to put down an address from the country of your citizenship. They got rid of a residency requirement in the UK two years ago. I definitely would not put down your childhood address if it is not accurate (i.e. no-one from your family lives there).

          If you have not lived in the UK for longer than 6 months since the age of 18, the standard rule is that you not need a police certificate. CIC may decide they want one, in which case they will let you know.

          Medical wise, if you know you need one, I would book it after you have secured a place in the quota in Stage 1. If you have not had the medical by the time you need to submit Stage 2 (say, by day 11), create a ‘Letter of Explanation’ instead and talk about how you have it booked for a certain date, at [location] at [time] etc. CIC usually give extensions.

          • Asim says:

            Thanks Gemma,

            Yeah I hope I don’t get asked for a fingerprint check. That would be quite stressful.

            So I should ignore the “country of citizenship” clause in the permanent address box and put down my permanent address which isn’t in the UK. I recall you telling Mairead that it MAY cause confusion to put down her NZ address. I’m sorry for banging on about this, I’m afraid I might have a brain fart during the actual application cos of that little “country of citizenship address.” My dad says he has a house in the UK so I can put that down, but I don’t live there so I’m torn.

            I took your advice on the medical. I called and booked one for Friday and hopefully it goes smoothly.

            Thanks again Gemma

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Asim,

            Yep, I did say that, to an address in your country of citizenship ifif you have family connection there. Your childhood home would not be a good address to put down unless a family member still lives there. It’s a hard one, because while I initially assumed it may cause confusion, I’m sure there are plenty of applicants who are applying via a country they hold citizenship to but have never lived there. edit – Consider sending CIC a message via Kompass MyMessages after completing the app and completing it with your actual permanent address?

            My advice was to book a medical AFTER you have secured a place on the quota, not right now? Although having one on Friday does make sense if you manage to submit your application and receive a place on Thursday, but you may not know for up to 48 hours. That means you may not be 100% sure until Saturday.

  88. Jacob says:

    hello again

    your guide mentions having your WTN from previous year but if you don’t have it you can enter date of application and date of entry into Canada. has this been consistent throughout the years? Only because I can’t find my WTN from last year and have no means of retrieving it
    Appreciate any info or reassurance
    Jacob

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      As per the screenshots (current/previous participation) the WTN OR the date of application (yyyy-mm) is required. I’ve just created a Kompass account under the Irish program to double check and it is the same. So unless they decide to change Kompass before Thursday, having either your old WTN or date of application to hand will be absolutely fine. Good luck!

  89. James says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have a British citizen, however I have been living in New Zealand for 6 months from the 17th March) but leaving the country Mid April. Does this mean I would need to declare myself to have lived in New Zealand in the time of applying as it wont have been 6 months on the 12th but 1 week later it will have been the 6 months.

    I hope this makes sense.

    Many thanks in advance for your help!

  90. Astrid says:

    Found this website last week and have been glued to it ever since – thank you so much!
    I have a few questions … my partner is looking to apply for the IEC as a UK citizen and I saw that they will soon be opening up the application. Does that mean open as it open for application, or will they just give us the dates of the rounds?

    Next, my partners visa is valid until next year Oct 2016 so I wondering if he can apply and send a copy to Kompass with the passport he has now (and in the mean-time renew it?), therefore when he comes into Canada bring both to show it is updated.

    Last question .. with the work permit – are there any time restrictions on how long you can work for one company? I know the IEC visa is valid for two years, but am wondering if you know anything about the work permit time limitations (if any). We were over in Australia last year and were limited to 6 months per company!

    Thanks so much! :)

    Astrid

    • Astrid says:

      Also as I read more through these posts I have one final (I promise) question!

      We were living over in Australia for the last year, and my partner the last 2 (he extended his visa) .. for the police check does that mean he needs one from the UK and Aus?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Astrid,

      I strongly believe that the quota will be released in three rounds again like the last couple of years, so Thursday would just be the first one. I am hoping that they offer more details when they announce the time tomorrow (Wednesday).

      Did you mean your partner’s passport is valid until Oct 2016? If so, yes just apply using the current one and renew it before you go to Canada. On arrival, present the new passport (but have the old one to hand just in case) and explain the situation. Before you leave the border officer, make sure the work permit has the new passport number on it, not the old one.

      There is no time restriction regarding working for an employer on the IEC working holiday program. It’s pretty awesome!

      If you or your partner have lived in any country for longer than six months since the age of 18, yes, you would need a police certificate from there. For Australia, an additional traffic report/license history is required if you lived in Queensland or Victoria is needed as well (even if you did not drive or had a local license). http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/australia.asp

      • Astrid says:

        Thank you so much Gemma for your answers! :)

        I guess it would be best to get cracking on the Australia documents needed (police check + license history) just to make sure we have them in time?! Or maybe best to wait until we see if we make it through and get into the quota?

        Those documents are requires in Stage two right? Once the CAL is received then we will need to upload all those documents and police checks etc.

        • Astrid says:

          Gemma … do you know if the fingerprints are required to get the Australian Police Check done? It says that sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t so I have no idea …

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Astrid,

            I haven’t heard of anyone getting fingerprints, and I just checked the CIC guide again to getting an Australian police check and it just says “Infomation and documents you need: applicable fees.” I think it would mention there if you needed fingerprints. And under “Australian police clearances that are not acceptable” I also would assume it would say ‘police checks without fingerprints’ or something along those lines. With no mention of fingerprints whatsoever in that section, I wouldn’t get them unless asked.

            I would apply for Australian police check after you have secured a place on the quota i.e. after step two of Stage 1, when you receive notification from CIC that your WTN is valid. If you don’t have it back by the time you need to submit Stage 2 (maybe around day 10/11), submit a self created ‘Letter of Explanation’ indicating you have applied but haven’t got it yet.

          • Astrid says:

            Hi Gemma,
            Yes you’re right .. there is nothing that says ‘Police check + Finger prints’ so I am assuming they are separate. Thanks for that!

            I have been looking at the CV template, and am wondering if you know if they would like us to write all employment history? On the template it only has two spots to write the (what I assume) most recent) employment.

            Thanks again :)

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            I think they’ve just put two spots in it to show they want more than just your most recent (or current) place of work. It really depends on how much work experience you have or how old you are (if you’re 25 or younger, include work history from 18 up, whereas I’d suggest to a 29 year old to just include 5 years if there is a lot). I believe the resume is mostly for statistical purposes, so I wouldn’t worry too much.

  91. Emma says:

    Hiya,

    I think this may have got lost in the chain of replies…I’ve got a kind of niche enquiry! Hoping someone may know the answer or where to look? I’m hoping to get a WH visa in this allocation but I don’t think I’ll want to use it straight away.

    If (big IF!) I did end up securing a WH visa, say I secure this on 1st May 2015. I have until 30th April 2016 to enter Canada, and entering the country activates it? Can I enter Canada during this time and NOT activate my WH visa? I realise this a niche question and I’ve no idea where to find the answer! Basically I want to visit Canada during this year but I don’t want to stay there just yet!

    Cheers,

    Emma

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Emma,

      Oops, sorry I did miss it! Entering the country and presenting your Port of Entry Letter of Introduction activates it. It is not an automatic thing.

      YES, you are definitely able to enter Canada without activating it. Some people do this to look for work or just so they can do a bit of travelling without ‘using up’ their IEC work permit. Other people may have a holiday planned before they even apply for the IEC. Be prepared for a bit of suspicion from the border officer (they may think you are going to work illegally) so be ready with some proof of funds to show you can support yourself. Having some definite plans to explain to the officer will also help i.e. saying ‘I’m going to Vancouver for a week and then Whistler for some skiing, then the Rockies for a month’ etc etc

      Have fun! (& good luck)

      • Emma says:

        Much appreciated. Thank you very much :)

        Next job….secure WH visa!!!

        Thanks Gemma. This blog post has been the most useful source of information on the whole IEC process – it is a stress saver!

  92. Sam says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Do you have any knowledge on what will show on the ACRO police check? I had a police caution for being caught with a small amount of class A drugs at a festival 4 years ago. I imagine this would seriously hamper my chances of getting a visa if it shows on the ACRO.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sam,

      Sorry, I’m not really sure. I’ve heard of some people having cautions on there, and others not. What you’re looking for when you get it is whether there is a ‘live trace’ noted or not.

  93. Eva says:

    Hey!
    Thanks for all the great tips and advices and all the photos that help A LOT with preparing for the visa lottery ;)

    Could you share your advice with something that is causing me some problems? Its about the police certificate that I’ll probably need. To get one from the country I live is is not a problem.

    I’ll copy the section from the CIC page;
    Who needs a police certificate?
    In general, you and all the people in your family who are 18 or older need to get a police certificate. You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18.

    I’ve been on an exchange study programe Erasmus for 1 year in The Netherlands. I was still enrolled as a student in my home country. I’ve travelled home every 2-3 months,…but I was also enrolled in the exchange student programe … so I am not sure, if I need a police certificate from The Netherlands or not?
    (Because obtaining one is a bit more diffult than the one in my home country).
    Thanks for ANY advice or thoughts.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Eva,

      It sounds like you have not been present in the Netherlands for a consecutive six months period. On that basis, it sounds like you do not need to provide one asked specifically asked.

      • Eva says:

        Thank you Gemma for such a fast reply!

        Do you have any email contact where I could be 100% sure that I won’t need another certificate for my stay in The Netherlands? As I’d like to sort this out before the quota opens, as this papers tend to be very complicated to get.

        I’d like to ask your opinion on another matter. Right now and probably in the application period I’ll have my current adress in my passport… but before I’ll leave to Canada, my permanent adress will change…and I will change it also in the passport. Do you think I might be any problems?
        (because I know how its written everywhere how the contact details have to be the same on the passport and aplication …)

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Eva,

          The official line from CIC on their page here is “In general, you and all the people in your family who are 18 or older need to get a police certificate. You must get one from each country or territory where you have lived for six or more months in a row since the age of 18.” The ‘in general’ means they can contact anyone and ask for one. You could use this online form to contact them – http://kompass-iec-eic.international.gc.ca/FeedBack-r%C3%A9troaction

          You have an address in your passport?? I’ve never heard of that before. I’m sure it would be fine though – a lot can happen between applying and actually entering Canada. It is important that everything is accurate at time of application.

  94. Anna says:

    I am hoping to apply for the IEC 2015 round, however this is a relatively spontaneous decision for me (I have wanted to go to Canada for a long time but did not realise how soon the applications opened!)

    Naturally I have so many questions, which I am struggling to find the answers to very quickly…can anyone help me please?!

    My boyfriend had an affray 10 years ago which is now spent – he did community service and got it defending his friend who was being attacked – is this a known issue in the process? I think it’s unspent convictions that are the only problem, does anyone know?

    I’ve read that the Point of Entry letter is valid for a year from when it is grantedl, is this correct? Also my boyfriend is 29 in May so, so long as we go to Canada within 12 months of the POE will he still get his two years? (Can you apply for your second year at the age of 30? )

    I have heard of some people getting 3 years + allowance by going through BUNAC – is this correct?

    Thank you so much in advance

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Anna,

      The CIC can refuse anyone based on criminal history, it really is a case-by-case thing. If I were him, I’d upload a ‘Letter of Explanation’ in stage 2 and talk about the circumstances (defending a friend) and how he has not been involved in any trouble since, how the offence is not reflective of who he is now etc etc. Being upfront and explaining what happened offers him the best shot of an approval.

      Yes, the Port of Entry (Letter of Introduction) is valid for a year when granted. Regarding the age limit, applicants just need to be 30 at the time of the initial application (create Kompass, apply for CAL). So, based on current rules he will be fine to get his two year work permit even if he is 29 now.

      BUNAC does not offer anything you cannot apply for yourself regarding the work permits (and hasn’t since 2010!). With the 24 month work permit coming in, only one participation is allowed. People who have participated ONCE before are allowed to apply again. So BUNAC or not, if someone has already been to Canada once before 2015, they can go again. For first time applicants, this is their first and only time.

      • Anna says:

        Thank you so so much for your reply! It is really appreciated!
        One last question I promise…am I to assume you don’t have to have the page open before 14:00pm to gain a space in a queue (for example as you would to get Glastonbury tickets or something!!) you simply go to the page on the link below and hit create account at 14:00pm?

        https://kompass-2015-iec-eic.international.gc.ca/sign_in-connexion?regionCode=GB

        I know there is no point in creating an account but I tried the create account button just now and it took me to an error message – assuming this is just because it is not open?

        Thanks again so much!! If I get in I’ll buy you a beer :-)

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hey Anna,

          How did you get on? This message arrived to me at 2.54am, so I was most definitely asleep!

          • Anna says:

            I managed to submit and my WTN was 700 and something! My boyfriends was 1000 and something so we’re pretty tense waiting for a message!! Thank you so much for your help – you’re very kind helping us all out like this :-) Fingers and toes are crossed for the next stages!

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Congrats! They are both really good numbers. Good on both of you!

    • Anna says:

      Sorry….me again!!! So we received our notification of submission within 24 hours of applying for CAL. We have taken your advice to delay the payment and uploading of the documents until we have sent off police certificates, allowing us enough time to get the ACRO back. On our letters it says we have until 23rd March to pay, upload cv & resume. We’re hoping to send the police certificate application forms today & pay etc in a few days time….My question is….are we in any danger by not paying straight away? Assume we still have our place in the ‘queue’ so to speak, hence the WTN?? And of course we will complete this well within the allocated time…. Sorry if this is a really silly question & I guess I know the answer but am fretting we’re doing something wrong!!!

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Anna,

        CIC offers 10 days to upload to allow people enough time to get the documents together and organise payment. Delaying it by a couple of days won’t change anything since you already have your place ‘secured.’ At this stage, you are not competing against anyone else for a place. I wouldn’t wait until day 10 to submit all your documents and payment though, day 7/8 is a better idea.

        • Anna says:

          We received our CAL on Friday and all was looking like it was going to plan. This morning we both received emails regarding our police certificates which says ” Thank you for your recent application for a Police Certificate which was received in this office on 20/03/2015. It will now be dealt with in accordance with the published guidelines.” Which I read that they will start the 10 working days from now?? On my boyfriends email they got his last name wrong…His last name is White and they put Jones….why I do not know!! He called to complain and they said it will take even longer to process even though it is their error! I assume all we can do is provide these emails as supporting evidence to support our lack of forms to say that we sent them off with sufficient time to get them back to us? If you provide sufficient evidence to show you have done everything right are they usually ok? With the change of the forms mid way through our application, which we found out the day we went to post them, it has been a nightmare to say the least!! As always, thank you so much!

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Anna,

            Sorry to hear you have had such problems with the ACRO! It could be 10 working days from now, but from my experience they can be very quick to send out your certificate after the confirmation email. They are experiencing a major backlog this year though so who knows! Yes, provide these emails and you will get an extension. It should not be a problem at all.

  95. Rob A says:

    14.00 gmt!

  96. Seb says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I’ve just realised it states they won’t issue a work permit beyond the expiry date of my passport (I had intended to renew this before coming). If I were to get accepted on my current passport details do you know if it would be easy to extend the work permit once renewed?
    I’ve sent of for a renewal in the mean time but could take 7+ weeks and I’m 31 next year!
    Thanks, Seb

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Seb,

      Apply with your current passport and then when you enter Canada to activate the work permit, present your brand new passport to the border officer and explain you had to renew it. They will update the work permit with your new passport details and give you the full 24 months. Have your old passport to hand just in case. Before you leave the desk, double check your work permit has the correct (new) passport number on it.

  97. Selina says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Your guide is very helpful! I’ve applied for the working holiday programme for the Netherlands last tuesday. In your guide it says that you receive another notice of receipt after you’ve paid the fees and uploaded the resumé and passport scan. What is your experience with how quickly this notice of receipt will be sent? The first notice of receipt was sent straight away but I’ve not received the second one yet. In my application status it says that the application, uploaded documents and payment was submitted and IEC eligibility assessment is pending. At the application requirements all 3 requirements are locked. Therefore it seems my payment and uploading were successful.

    Hope to hear from you:).

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Selina,

      It is really hard to say; you could be waiting up to 14 days. CIC are really hard to predict. Sometimes things seem to be first come first served while other times they absolutely are not! Hope you hear soon

    • nr says:

      hey! I also never received a second notice of receipt after submitting payment and uploading my documents! did you even end up getting one? or does anyone have more info about this?

  98. Micheal says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Bit of a mad rush for the first round of the IEC process and unfortunately my fingers weren’t quick enough this time round.

    Going forward, and in preparation for the next round, do you know if there is anything else I need to do other than the section “IEC Category” that was not available to me when trying to complete my application this time?

    I have every other section completed in full.

    Thanks.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Michael,

      If every other section is full, it sounds like you will only need to complete the IEC category and then submit. Fingers crossed for you for round 2! I’m sure it will be announced soon.

  99. Emma says:

    Hi,

    Anyone know which number on the WTN indicates where you are in the queue? Is it the end one?

    Your IEC application World Tracking Number (WTN) is: LDN-GB-15-WHP-******

    Gah, that was a stressful experience!

    • Anthony says:

      So close… I imagine round 2 will be just as bad!

      • Emma says:

        I reckon so!

        They also had 2500 spots in Round 1. Round 2 and Round 3 there will be less spots per round I think! Did you get your application in?

        • Anthony says:

          No but my girlfriend did. I did open my Kompass account though and I’m hoping that because you only need to tick one box for the subsequent rounds it should be a lot easier! Still, round 1 was filled up in only 12 minutes…

          Congratulations on submitting, Emma :)

          • Emma says:

            I’m sure if you’ve got everything filled in and it is just a matter of clicking Submit – you’ll be fine in the next round. Good luck

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        I’m guessing you didn’t get in Anthony? Best of luck for round 2 if that is the case! Make sure you’ve filled out everything as much as you can so you only have to select ‘IEC category’ and then submit.

        • Anthony says:

          Unfortunately not Gemma, but my hopes are up for the next round. I’ve made sure everything is filled out so with a bit of luck it should be quick and painless! Thanks again for all your help.

    • Sarah says:

      It’s the 4 digits at the end!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Yep, the end one Emma! Sounds like you got in, so congrats!!! :)

  100. nrsy says:

    thanks for this blog post its an awesome help… i have a quick question if anyone knows … i was successful at getting a spot in the quota the other day for the IEC working holiday.. … i used my main email address and my sister used my other email address (both set up with the same passport number:mine) and we were both logging on and trying to get into the system as fast as possible and the other was going to stop trying if the other person got in… well we ended up accidentally both pushing submit my application and we ended up getting two spots in the quota… i immediately withdrew one of the applications to hopefully give someone else a chance… by getting two spots with the same passport number (different kompass account numbers and different email addresses) … then withdrawing one of the applications .. will that affect the account that I decided to keep? i withdrew the accidental second quota spot immidiately and sent a message to IEC explaining the mistake… will they revoke my IEC quota spot because of this? I feel really bad about taking two spots accidentally while some people were left with no spot.. it was just a huge rush and completely accidental

    • nrsy says:

      also.. i applied from South Korea for Korean Citizens.. the quota is 4000 and the last round is tomorrow morning

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi there,

      If you withdrew it straight away, I wouldn’t imagine it would impact the other application. Sending the message was also the right thing to do. Try no to feel bad about it; there’s always a bit of reconciliation time after a quota ends and that is why a waiting list is always started after the final round – to fill any gaps.

  101. aoife says:

    Hi,
    thanks for your great information.
    I am waiting on my notice of receipt for uk working holiday in Canada, I notice there is an added document, the itinerary, I have nothing booked yet, as I wasnt sure if I would get a visa, etc, so what do I upload here on my cic account?? does it matter if I have nothing booked?
    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Aoife,

      It’s not a problem. You will need to provide an outline of your trip plans to far, something like ‘I plan to fly to Vancouver in September 2015 and look for work in the city. I am hoping to live there for the entire two years of my working holiday.”

      • nrsy says:

        thank you for the answer! i guess ill find out by monday or tuesday because it says it takes 3-5 business days for the withdrawal to go through

  102. Astrid says:

    Hi Gemma,
    For those of us who hopefully made the quota (where our number was below 2500), the next step (once we receive final Notice of Receipt) is going to be Document Upload aka CV + Passport photo + Payment?. We would have 10 days from the time we get a spot in the quota to send these away + pay yes?
    -Then (in my case) this would be the time I send away for police checks needed etc.
    -After this its waiting for the CAL, where we would then create a MyCIC account, upload documents + submit for the final POI letter.

    How long does the whole process take? I know its 14days to wait for the CAL, and then once we apply for the work permit it can take up to .. 42 days? Is that right. Its nice to be able to have an idea of how long the whole process takes!

    Thanks again for all your help, this blog is my saviour!!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Astrid,

      Yes, you will have 10 days to upload the resume/passport photo scan and pay after being asked by CIC. After that you have potentially 14 days to wait to hear whether you have a CAL (Conditional Acceptance Letter). From when you receive that, you will have 14 days to upload and submit required docs and CAL. After submitting those, you may be waiting up to 42 days.

      So yes, now is a good time to send off for police checks and organise the documents you need for round 2. :)

      • Lida says:

        Hi Gemma!
        You seemed to be really skilled about all the process.
        May I ask you, if the 42 days is only working days, or if those are meant also with weekends. I also heard, that some people get the PoE earlier than within 42 days.
        I already bought a fly ticket and the day I suppose to leave to Canada is 35th day of the process since I submitted the CIC application.
        Thank you for your answer
        Lida

  103. Asim says:

    Hi

    Has anyone on here successfully viewed their application after submitting? It was so frantic I wanted to check if I made any minor errors. Downloading the pdf of the submitted application just gives me a page saying my adobe reader needs updating when it’s the latest version.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Asim,

      Two things – have you got the latest version of Abode? If so, download the PDF to your desktop and then open it. That usually solves the problem!

  104. Tay says:

    Hi Gemma,

    My boyfriend is applying for the UK working holiday. Unfortunately he didn’t make this round but fingers crossed he can make it on one of the next rounds. I just have a quick question. He lives in France and does not have a permanent address in the UK. Because one of the sections asks for his permanent address in the UK and he doesn’t have one is that going to be an issue? He just filled it in as same as mailing address right now, but I was wondering if you had any idea about this kind of situation?

    Thanks so much!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Tay,

      Does your boyfriend have any family in the UK that would be happy with him using their address? Otherwise, use his French address as the permanent address and then send a CIC note via Kompass’s MyMessages explaining the situation. There is no condition that UK applicants have a residential address in the UK.

  105. Kirsti says:

    Hi,

    Firstly just to say thanks for putting together such a great, comprehensive guide. It’s really helped me understand the process better :-)

    Unfortunately though I wasn’t quite quick enough to finish my application for the British round 1 yesterday – my question is will i be required to start over the whole process at Round 2 or can i log straight into my Kompass and pick up where i got to?

    thanks

    Kirsti

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      You’re welcome! I’m sorry to hear you missed out on round 1 Kirsti. No matter, you will just need to log back in when round 2 opens, choose the IEC category and then submit :) No starting over needed!

  106. jamie says:

    Hi,

    I wonder if anyone is able to help me? I created my kompass account when I was at work but waited until I got home to properly complete the application, I now realise I have missed the first round and will need to apply for the second round. Will i need to create another kompass account or can I use my existing one? I didn’t realise how quick i needed to be when applying, absolutely gutted I missed the first round.

    Thannk you very much,
    Jamie

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jamie,

      Sorry to hear you missed out on the round 1 quota. You should be able to log into Kompass using your existing account and complete the CAL application – I would try it now if you can, I know it’s usually open for a few hours afterwards. If you can’t, you will have to continue when round 2 starts.

      • jamie says:

        Hi Gemma,

        Thanks a lot for your quick response. Unfortunately there is no option for me to complete the CAL section. In my ‘application requirements’ it will not let me go past IEC category as it says ;

        The 2015 International Experience Canada (IEC) initiative is not open for the Working holiday category. Please refer to the IEC Website for the status of the quota.

        Do you have an idea what I did wrong?

        Thanks again,
        Jamie

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          I’m not sure which part you are looking at, but if you are trying to select the working holiday category, it is the only section of the CAL you will be unable to complete until round 2 opens. So if you complete every other section, all you will have to do for round 2 is select the IEC category and then submit.

  107. milasaki says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Just double-checking – I don’t have to physically sign the online IMM5707 form, right? This should be electronically signed when I sign at the end? I had a bit of a meltdown as i’ve submitted it without signature, but assumed that as i’m using the PDF online, that this will submit a signature for all my forms? Might they contact me if there is an issue, or would this decline my whole application?

    Thanks again for all your help – this guide is amazing!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Milasaki,

      You do not have to physically sign any of the CIC IMM forms in Stage 2. You will do an ‘electronic signature’ (ticking a box) before you submit everything for Stage 2.

      And thanks for the comments :)

  108. Steven says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am still waiting for my countries dates to be announced. Intense times :)
    I am currently working and living in the Netherlands but I am not a citizen.
    Should I avoid using my current Dutch address on my IEC application and also on my CV to prevent any confusion?
    Most importantly under the section ‘personal permanent address (address in country of your citizenship) I have used my parents address. This I know is correct as you have answered this already.
    What would you recommend?

    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Steven,

      I think putting the Netherlands down as your ‘personal mailing address’ and ‘personal current address’ would be fine. As for the resume, I wouldn’t overthink it, it is just for CIC’s records and (as I assume) statistical purposes. So if you have been working and living in the Netherlands a while, I would have thought a Dutch address on there would also be OK.

  109. Astrid says:

    Hi Gemma,
    You told me a few days ago my partner would need a police check from Aus (because he was living there over the last two years) and a VicRoads License History check for the IEC second stage of Part 1 ya? Can you check this website out and see if its the right one … It says Driver History Report for VIC and I think it would be #2, the Full License History. It doesn’t look like there is a way to do it online, so he might have to call?

    https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/licences/demerit-points-and-offences/check-driver-history

    Thanks again :)

  110. Rachel says:

    Hey,

    My husband got in on the first round (7minites) but didn’t pay his fee and upload his passport and cv until 16 hours later, could this mean he still hasn’t got a spot in the quota? And what would qualify him not to have a spot?
    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachel,

      From when CIC asks to pay the fee and upload required documents, you have 10 days to comply. So if your husband uploaded the docs and paid within 16 hours, he was well within the time limit. He would not receive a spot if he was not eligible i.e. he is 31 or over

  111. Sarah says:

    Hello Gemma!
    I was wondering if you know anything about this matter or if anybody else is experiencing my problem!
    I have received the Notification of Submission in my IEC account and uploaded my documents and paid the fee through netbanx (CAD$154.50). I then received a transaction confirmation email however there has been no update in the submission of payment in my IEC account and it is still in PENDING status. It has been 10 hours since the transaction and it is worrying me! :(

    Love your page, you have helped me so much in my application.
    Sarah

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sarah,

      Just keep waiting! I know it’s hard when you really want to hear some news, but potentially you have 14 days to wait to complete this section. I have no doubts that the ‘pending’ notice will disappear in a few hours if it hasn’t already!

    • Ross says:

      Hi Sarah,

      The exact same thing has happening with me. I have emailed IEC through the messaging service to notify them of the issue. In addition I send them a number of screen shots – of email confirmation and Pending status on Kompass. I have yet to hear back from them, but I doubt I’ll hear back until Monday.

  112. Frances Rougvie says:

    Hi there,

    I applied for the Working Holiday Visa and did get a spot. I have received my notice of submission, uploaded the required documents for stage 1 and paid the fee. However, I have already created a myCIC account (even though I haven’t received my CAL yet)- does this mean I have 14 days from the moment I created the account or I have 14 days from the minute the CAL comes through? I’m just worried I have activated my account and haven’t given myself enough time to apply for my ACPO certificates.

    Thanks,
    Frances

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Frances,

      You will have 14 days to upload the required documents for Stage 2 from the time you receive your CAL. The fact that you opened MyCIC earlier counts for nothing! FYI – just updated the guide as ACPO now accepts online applications if you haven’t already sent it.

  113. Dean says:

    Hey Gemma

    Awesome blog, i think the best site out there for guidelines, explanation and help.

    I was lucky enough to get through and so just have a quick question about my info. I am currently not in England. However i put my residing address as England. This is because i am travelling and do not have an address for where i am staying right now, and on top and on top of that ive only been in my current place for a few weeks and again moving next week. However i did put down that my phone number was a north american cell. shall i email them explaining this or will they be okay with it?

    I just dont want to mess anything up from here.

    Thankyou

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Dean,

      Thanks! I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be a problem. Lots of people will be travelling and/or on working holidays outside their home countries and it would be unrealistic for CIC to expect people to enter temporary addresses (i.e. one you would be resident at for less than a month or so). I don’t think it would have have been appropriate to put down a hostel/hotel address (for anyone else reading this, if you have done this, I’m sure you won’t have ANY issues, but a home address would have been better). CIC are very very unlikely to call you (i.e. I am 99.99999% sure) and I doubt the phone number would even get more than a glance.

  114. Joanna says:

    Thank you for this super informative webpage! Just a quick question, I have a Kompass account set up for 2014 with a WTN all its waiting for to submit is the quota to open. Can I login with this account when the second round for 2015 opens?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Joanna,

      Yes, that is correct! All being well with CIC’s servers, you will be able to log in, complete the ‘IEC category’ section and then submit!

  115. Diana says:

    Hi Gemma ! I love your webside so much information on it . I was just wondering do you have any idea why they taken so long to open holiday working visas this year? I’m Lithuanian and thought it would of been open by now :(

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Diana,

      I have no idea sorry! It’s not completely unusual to be this late though, I think in 2013 it was March/April as well.

  116. Ross says:

    Hi Gemma

    I have received the Notification of Submission in my IEC account and uploaded my documents and paid the fee through netbanx (CAD$154.50). I then received a transaction confirmation email however there has been no update in the submission of payment in my IEC account and it is still in PENDING status. In addition I am yet to receive Notification of Receipt and I sent fees early Saturday afternoon UK time. I have sent IEC a number of email through Kompass and have had no response.

    I was wondering if you could offer me any advice as to the best way to resolve this issue as 22nd is my due date?

  117. Chaz says:

    Hi,

    i am trying to complete the IMM 1295 form online and have got to the employment section where it only has 3 boxes for 10 years. the help page suggests printing the page and uploading it with the form. however, it only allows you to upload one document per section and the pdf seems to be protected so i am unable to merge the two documents. is it ok to upload it to the other documents section?

  118. Agnes says:

    Hi Gemma, I am wondering if you have any idea when the Working Holiday Visa for France will come out. Nothing has been posted on the IEC website…do you know if it could still take several weeks or should it be coming out soon?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Agnes,

      I’m afraid I have no inside knowledge, it could be announced at any time. IEC have been experiencing issues with processing payments after Stage 1 of the UK program was released last Thursday and it seems this has caused a delay as no programs have been announced since then. At the current speed they are working at, it will take another two months to open every program. It potentially could be a long wait for you.

  119. Asim says:

    Hi Gemma,

    After updating my adobe reader on mine and all the other computers I could get my hands on, I finally was able to check my submitted application and verify it and thankfully no errors!

    My payment is due on the 23rd like a lot of applicants who got through the first round but I decided to hold off until the 20th or 21st to make the payment as the earliest medical check I could get was scheduled for 7th April. I don`t know what to do. Since many applicants payments have been pending, I don`t want to wait until tomorrow and submit the payment, but then I run the risk of missing uploading my medical IF I receive my CAL much sooner than 14 days. I sent a message via Kompass but they never reply. Should I just upload a `letter of explanation` if it comes to that?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Asim,

      While I have recommended to people to hold off on payments for a few days to allow medicals/police certs a little more time, I would **not** wait until day 8/9 of 10. This was my advice even until CIC started having payment processing issues, so if I were you, I would submit ASAP. If in Stage 2 you need to submit before you actually do your medical (unlikely by the current timescles), I would just upload a letter of explanation. CIC understands that things are not instant with medicals/police certs.

      • Asim says:

        Thanks Gemma,

        Yeah I submitted my payment as soon as I got your message. Got the combination of locked and pending like a lot of other applicants. I’m sure it will work out fine with this and the medical. Staying positive! Thanks again!

  120. Elisha says:

    Hi

    Has anyone got any idea about when the IEC will open for NZ? I have booked my tickets to arrive in May & now a little worried as the process has not opened for NZ yet?

    Thanks
    Elisha

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Elisha,

      There have been no IEC announcements since last week so no news on any of the programs still due to open. Everything has been a bit quiet recently, probably due to the IEC having issues processing payments since round 1 of the UK program last Thursday. If they keep going at their current rate, there is still a couple of months to go until all programs have been opened.

  121. Daniel says:

    Hey Gemma congrats on the page and helping a lot of people out there. My question for you is Im currently in Canada on the IEC Im applying for another one, Im on the second stage of it everything is good to go but its asking for travel itinerary Im not sure what they want me to provide here as I’m already in Canada and just have to drive to the boarder to activate a new visor what would your suggestions be ?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Daniel,

      This is the first year an itinerary has been asked for, so there is no precedent or guide for it. If I were you, I would type something up like “Once I receive my Port of Entry I intend to activate it in [month] at the [name] border crossing. I will then continuing working in [city/town] for [timeframe].”

      Glad to hear everything else is going well!

  122. Phil says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Firstly, your site has been a fantastic help for this process, very easy to follow to understand and has directly contributed to me getting a WTN!! I also bought your e-book to have even more tips. One quick question though: On the working holiday are we allowed to leave Canada, say to visit UK at Christmas, and return or are there any limitations you are aware of? Obviously want to make the most of my time out there!
    Thanks for your help!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Phil,

      Glad I could help! There are no entry-exit limitations on the IEC – you can leave and enter Canada as much as you like. The one thing you may have issues with is your travel insurance though, as a lot of standard policies cancel your coverage if you return to your home country. Some allow one or two short visits (up to 14 days) and there are a few that allow unlimited visits with no problem. So keep this in mind when looking for insurance – more tips and some suggested companies are in the book :)

      • Phil says:

        Thanks Gemma! I would only be looking for one short trip back (probably around Christmas) so this woould work for me. I’ll stick my nose back in the book and take a look at the insurance (and the rest….)

        Thanks again!

  123. Lyndsay says:

    Hey Gemma, Fair play on the article, its got SO much useful info, I only wish I’d had this info when I was applying last year! Quick question & apologies if u have already answered it for someone else but I don’t think it came up when I was working through the thread. I applied for my 2year Visa last year (from Ireland) which I got and moved to Canada last month. Are you aware if I’ll be able to apply for another 2 year visa after my current one is up? I’m just trying to think ahead here because if I am elegible to apply again for another 2years (4 years in total) then I’ll need to apply next year so that when my current Visa is up in Feb 2017 I’ll be able to start my next one as soon after as possible (I’m aware I may need to leave Canada/cross the boarder to come back in for it to activate). Thanks in advance and no worries if ur not sure of the answer but so far the only examples I can find are people on a 1 year visa who then applied for an additional 2 years but my first visa is 2 years. Lyndsay :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lyndsay,

      Thanks! :) The Irish working holiday program was changed in 2013 from a 2 x one year work permit system to one 24 month work permit. You are not eligible to take part in the working holiday program again as you participated after the changes. People who went on a working holiday once before the system changed (so had a one year work permit) are able to apply and participate once more, and go to Canada for up to 24 months.

      You are however able to apply for another work permit through the International Co-op OR Young Professionals categories. Both of these categories require a job offer and your employer will have pay some fees to hire you.

      • Lyndsay says:

        Thanks for getting back to me so fast Gemma, much appreciated! OK perfect thanks for the info, if only every site had straight up answers like u do! Hahaha :)

  124. Cavan says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Great website!!!

    So today I received my approved application for my working holiday Australian visa (took about a month from start to finish). This will be my third and final application. My visa expires on May 9th so will just hold on to this till closer to the time.

    My question comes from the second page of the POE letter which states:

    IMPORTANT: Regulations have established a maximum cumulative duration of four years that a Temporary
    Foreign Worker can work in Canada. After four years of work has been accumulated, a period of 48 months
    spent not working in Canada must elapse before another work permit can be issued, with some limited
    exceptions. You are encouraged to keep track of any time you have not worked in Canada and retain any
    documents which can prove the time which you did not work. For more information on this, please visit our
    Website at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work.

    The link to this particular section is: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-eligible/four-year-maximum.asp?s=2

    I have been working in my current job in Canada for about 3 1/2 years. Would this therefore mean that I would only get issued a work permit for 6 months up until this date? Surely it is strange for them to approve me for another 2 year visa if I was not able to qualify for the whole period.

    When I read the exemptions, under the four year maximum rule I end up more confused than I was already. Do you have experience or advice on how to read this page? My job would qualify under Category A NOC, however would I need to provide evidence of this at the border (not sure how i would do this)? I got caught up in the PR quota saga at the end of last year, where I thought my PR application was on track for it to come back rejected because of the quota.

    The elation of getting this letter was quickly put to confusion and doubt. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Cavan

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Cavan,

      To be completely honest, I did not know anything about this four year rule until you mentioned it. The relevant information is not that clear either. It does sound like you may not get the full amount due to this, but then again the section stating “It is only when you apply for a work permit that these exceptions become relevant. An officer may issue a work permit to you if you have a job offer in one of these occupations/categories, even if you have already worked in Canada for four years.” I’m not sure whether the “officer” they are refering to is the immigration officer issuing you a permit approval OR the border officer actually issuing you the permit at the border. I imagine it is probably the first since they are probably not directing the information at people with IEC work permits (who have to go to the border).

      If I were you, I would print this section out, highlight the relevant sentences and somehow bring evidence of your Category A NOC job. Perhaps a letter from your employer stating what your job is? I would only offer this information if required i.e. if the officer hesitates giving you the full amount of time. I wish you the best of luck, I’m sorry I don’t know more about this than you.

  125. James says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have been living in New Zealand for just over 6 months so i also attached a NZ disclosure form on my CIC application. However this was not accepted and they have requested:

    “Police Certificate:
    Issued by the Ministry of Justice of New Zealand, issued within 3 months from the date you submitted your stage 2 application.”

    Therefore I have now sent this form http://www.justice.govt.nz/services/criminal-records/how-to-get-a-copy-of-your-criminal-conviction-history

    Do you think this is correct? They have given me up to 1 month to get this form

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi James,

      Sorry to hear that the CIC wouldn’t accept the NZ disclosure form in your case, making the overall process longer for you. I’ve heard of this once before, from another IEC candidate around six months ago. You should be good to get the Ministry of Justice police cert back within a month, I’ve seen people talking about a two/three week wait on Facebook. At least it’s free I guess!

      I’m not sure why they have requested to get the MoJ cert over the disclosure form, unless CIC have changed the policy without updating their website to reflect this (I wouldn’t put it past them!) Otherwise it’s just one of those weird things, like how a minority of people are asked for Canadian police certs but most are not. If they have changed the policy I would be interested to know the reasoning as the disclosure is the only accepted document for Permanent Residency applications which are more thorough (and hold much more weight) than a working holiday application.

  126. Robin says:

    Hello Gemma,

    Thanks for such a fantastic and useful website, I have one question – when uploading my passport scans, should I only upload the scanned photo page or a scan of my current working visa that is attached also?

    Thanks in advance!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Robin,

      Glad I could help. In Stage 1, you just need the scan of the passport photo page. In Stage 2, you are required to upload the photo page plus any pages with stamps or marks on them. I would scan a copy of your current IEC as well – I don’t think it is truly necessary but better to be safe than sorry.

  127. gaurav says:

    Hi, I m Gaurav from India do u have any type of visa for me of Canada. I wanna know I m 31 years old

  128. GCKey Question says:

    Hi, Your site is very informative and has been extremely helpful. Thank you.
    I have just received my CAL and have 14 days to complete my information and submit my application for a Canadian Working Holiday visa. I attempted to sign into my GCKey so I could set up a MYCIC account. God knows how I have managed this but I now have a 24 hour block on my account and I don’t know my GCKey password or the correct security questions answers. Should I apply for another GCKey? If so, I understand I must marry my old GCKey with my new one, will I still need to answer the prior security questions to do this?
    If you could provide and clarification on this i would be extremely grateful.
    Thank you in advance.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Kimberley,

      If you are sure you do not know the details to get back into your MyCIC account, just open a new one. You may have to use a different email address, but opening another account should not affect your application in any way.

  129. Mike says:

    Hi Gemma,

    First of all, big thanks for the wonderful guide and abundance of information you have provided us.

    I am an Australian citizen and I am currently in the second and final stage of submitting my application.
    I have a question regarding passport pages, it may be too difficult to answer but I’ve wondered if you’ve come across this before.
    Last year my passport expired so I have since gotten a new one but I have not travelled since so there are no stamps of visas on any of the pages. But, I have been working in Japan for the last 3 years and I have a 3 year visa attached to my old passport (I have not transferred it since I was advised by the embassy that it’s not required as long as I carry both). So the question is what should I upload for my passport pages in this case?

    Just a note, the passport number I used for my application is of course the new one and it has a different number to the old passport so if I attach just the visa, it will show a different number which would seem strange. Also, this will effect whether I need a police certificate for Japan as well.

    Please let me know what you think.

    Mike

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Mike,

      Good to know the guide was helpful for you! With no stamps in the passport you are applying with, you have no reason to scan any pages. If I were you, I would just scan the photo page and upload that. It would be very confusing and a bit unnecessary to upload stamps/visas from your old passport – it is a completely different number and is not asked for. If you are at all concerned, I would type something up and submit it as a ‘Letter of Explanation,’ perhaps something like “Since receiving my passport in [month, year], I have not acquired any stamps. My current three year Japanese work visa is still attached to my old passport (as advised by the Australian embassy), I can upload a copy if required’ or something like that.

      The rule on police certificates does not have much to do with your passport – after all, with the IEC being open for people aged between 18-30 (18-35) in some countries, applicants can have a number of passports in that period. It wasn’t until recently in Canada that passports were issued for longer than 5 years. The processing officers are advised to ask for police certificates for any country an applicant has lived in for 6 months or longer since the age of 18 as a standard policy – so if this is applicable to you, it is good practice to be proactive and have it ready. Hope this helps!

      • Mike says:

        Hi Gemma,

        Thanks for your advice.

        I will upload just my photo page for my new passport and provide a letter of explanation.

        Yes, I have a police certificate ready for Australia but for Japan, you can’t get one unless you have an authorized letter or request from a government body asking for it. So I don’t think I can get that in advance.

        Kind Regards
        Mike

  130. Charlie says:

    Hellooo.
    If i’m lucky enough to gain a PoE letter (currently in the 6 week waiting period after submitting my CIC), will I be able to travel to Canada on holiday then come home, and then go back again to then start my IEC?
    Thanks Gemma!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Charlie,

      You absolutely can go to Canada on holiday without activating your IEC work permit. The border officer may mention ‘oh there’s a work permit on here’ or something like that, but it is your choice when you actually want to use it (by the same token, they may say absolutely nothing). I’d make sure you have return flight information on you, just in case the officer takes a special interest.

  131. Emma says:

    Is anyone else having problems accessing the application form on the CiC portal? The IM 1295 one. Weirdly I can access the Family Info for to fill out, so think my pdf reader is up to date. But the main form I cannot access. Any clues?
    Cheers, Emma

  132. Kim says:

    Hi Gemma, I was on a temporary Canadian foreign worker visa for two years and changed to a visitors visa in February. I am filling out the IMM1295 form to apply for a working holiday visa. Q 7 states ‘country of residence’, should i write Canada here? or should i put my home country? Q8 asks: ‘list the countries you have lived 6 months or more in within the last five years. DO NOT INCLUDE YOUR COUNTRY OF CITIZENSHIP OR YOUR CURRENT COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE” If I put Canada as a visitor in Q7 should i still state it again in question 8? Also, can I apply for a Working Holiday Visa from within Canada or will i have to go for an interview?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Kim,

      Your current country of residence is Canada as you are living there right now even though you are on visitor status. For Q8, I would not list Canada as it is your current country of residence.

      You can absolutely apply for the IEC from Canada, and there is no interview needed. When you receive your approval however, you will need to do a border hop to activate the IEC work permit. :)

  133. Calum Young says:

    Hi Gemma

    Awesome page you have here and incredible that you’re doing so much to help other people during such a nervous time!

    I am from the UK but I have been living in Australia for 4 years, I met my Canadian girlfriend here in Australia and have now been together for 2 years (I am sponsored here in Australia and we got a defacto visa for my girlfriend to continue to live here with me)

    I am looking to get the IEC visa so I can go with my girlfriend in August back to Canada because she would like to continue studying. We could go for PR but as far as I understand it would be a lengthy process and it may mean we have to be apart for a few months on opposite sides of the world, which we have done before but it was awful and we would never like to do that again.

    You seem like you have done both options, I am hoping you can give me some advice as to what I should do to have the best chance of being granted a visa to go to Canada.

    I would also like to ask, with the IEC, I noticed on a facebook group someone saying their passport didn’t match the country they were applying from. In my case I would be applying from Australia but my passport is UK. I would more than likely be visiting the UK in July/August before going to Canada but are there any tips you have for what I should say to make sure I still can get a visa?

    Sorry for the huge question, I hope you can help.

    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Calum,

      Applying for the IEC is a great way to stay with your girlfriend in Canada – it also means you can put in a Permanent Residency application in ASAP (common-law sponsorship if you have been living together for at least a year at time of application) and work while it is being processed. Being British, you are eligible for a two year IEC work permit. I would therefore advise you to apply for PR via the *outland* route, which means the majority of the application is processed outside of Canada – in your case, by the London office (you can still apply outland while living in Canada). Although the official processing times for the London office state something crazy like 29 months, the realistic wait time for British applicants is around 10 months. The current official wait time seems to be exaggerated by the Pakistani applications that are also being dealt with in London right now. Check out the British Expats forum – there is a great thread in there with current applicants discussing and sharing wait times.

      There is no problem with you applying for the IEC with a British passport while living in Australia.

  134. Anthony says:

    Hi Gemma,

    My girlfriend received her CAL (through the UK program) earlier this week. Although she knows she got it, she never downloaded it (as we were on holiday with poor WiFi). She is now trying to log back into her Kompass account to access the CAL but her login details (specifically the password) aren’t working for some reason (we get the message “invalid email address/password combination”). She is sure her login details are correct. She has tried resetting her password by filling out the security questions. She then gets a message saying her password has been sent to her e-mail address, but no such e-mail is received. We’re a bit worried as the clock is ticking for submitting the supporting docs. We have reported the issue to the IEC (using the “Report your issue” feature) but are not sure when we’ll get a response.

    Do you have any advice for gaining access to her Kompass account, so that we can view the CAL and progress to Stage 2?

    Many thanks for any help!

    Anthony

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Anthony,

      I wish I could be of more help to you – you have done everything I would have advised you. Really hope IEC get back to you ASAP regarding this, you must be pretty worried.

      • Anthony says:

        Thank you Gemma – I hope so too.

        What is quite worrying is that, to make sure it wasn’t a problem with her e-mail account, I tried the “I’ve forgotten my password” link using my own Kompass details. I then answered my security questions and got the same message letting me know that my password had been sent to me. However, no such e-mail was received, and to make matters worse I now can’t access my own Kompass account (I’m told my password/e-mail is incorrect)! This can’t be true as I am 100% sure they are correct. This is leading me to think that, by answering my security questions, my password has been reset entirely.

        It’s a not a total disaster as I am hoping to obtain my CAL via another Kompass account (as I have dual nationalities). But it’s very worrying that at the moment it looks like, if you try to to reset your password / have your password e-mailed to you, you are then locked out of your own account!

        I guess I’m leaving this post as much as a warning to any readers that they potentially risk being locked out if they try answering their security questions…

        If you have any thoughts on this I’d be grateful. I will report this issue to the IEC as before. I assume there is no emergency helpline we can call (that would be a godsend!)?

        Thank you again for an excellent guide.

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Anthony,

          Sadly there is no emergency helpline – the Canadian CIC call centre would not be of any use since they are not immigration agents and lack any The IEC/CIC are extremely elusive and frankly, not that great at communciation (e.g. see the failed Twitter account situation!)

          Thank you for posting this on here for others. Definitely worrying!

          • Anthony says:

            Thanks for confirming this Gemma.

            It’s very disheartening to have come this far and to risk everything falling through because of a system problem at their end. Hopefully a representative will contact us very soon.

            If the worst should happen and the 14-day deadline should pass without my girlfriend being able to access her Kompass account, is there another way she could apply to work in Canada assuming I got in through the IEC? I seem to recall that she could apply for an Open Work Permit,on the basis that I am her common law partner and got in through the IEC?

            Many thanks.

          • Danielle says:

            Hi Anthony,
            I’m not sure if this would be the same but is worth trying! When applying for my IEC visa I managed to open a Kompass account and start filling the initial information but unfortunately the round closed before I finished. When I went to log back on to my Kompass account to see which sections I had filled out/have left to fill out it told me my email/password was invalid, however, when I went back to my original confirmation email that gives you the link to ‘activate your account’, and signed in exactly the same way through that link it lets me log in. Hope this helps!
            Danielle

          • Anthony says:

            Danielle,

            Thanks very much, that’s really useful to know! Can you remember if when you re-activated your account all of the forms you were filling out were left in the same state, and all the info you had filled in was still there? I just don’t want to try re-activating the account and somehow ‘cancel’ the account entirely if you see what I mean. But I will certainly use it as a last resort!

            Thanks again.

          • Danielle says:

            Hi Anthony,
            Yes, all the forms I had filled out were still saved and it did not start a whole new Kompass account for me. It still has my same IEC Kompass account number and still now this is the only way I can sign on to my account! I did not have to create a new account at all, I just clicked on the link to activate my account and there it asks just for email address and password to enter, so I just entered my original password. Hope this helps!

          • Anthony says:

            It does, thank you very much Danielle!

          • Danielle says:

            Glad it worked and good luck with everything!

    • Mike says:

      Hi Anthony,

      I actually had the same thing happen to me where I enter my login details and it would say it was invalid when I know for sure it was correct. I apologize if it has been resolved but it might help other readers.

      I’m not sure what was the cause as I tried it in Internet Explorer and Google Chrome with the same error.
      Eventually I found out that it may have been an issue with the form autofill feature and maybe the CIC server doesn’t like it for some reason.
      I restarted Chrome and then did not use the auto fill option when I filled in my details and it logged me in.
      It has happened to me twice now.

      Hope this helps.
      Regards
      Mike

  135. NRSY says:

    Hello! Thanks so much for this website its very useful! i have some questions about step 2 applying for the work permit through MyCIC. i did the online thing and opened a CIC account and have the list of documents that i need: IMM1295, travel itinerary, CAL, Resume, Passport, Medical exam, photo, Police certficate, and Family Information Form (IMM5707).

    Is IMM5707 the correct family information form to use? i am aware that there are a few different family information forms on the CIC website.

    Also, for IMM1295 we can leave the section that asks about “details of intended work in canada” blank? I have no employment set up already but i do want to find work in ontario… should i leave it all blank or maybe put in ontario if thats where i want to work? I feel like that would be covered in my travel itinerary though..

    One more question… are we expected to print these forms and sign them? then scan them then upload them? or is there some sort of digital signature we are required to use.. i couldn’t really find much information about this!

    thanks!

    • NRSY says:

      Im sorry! i just found information on here about signing the forms! i understand that after i have uploaded them (with no signature) on MyCIC, that i will be requested to tick a box to “sign” all forms electronically?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi there,

      IMM5707 is the correct family form to use for IEC applicants. The confusing bit at the end means the form should be used by people aged 18 & over OR people from the mentioned countries who are under 18. It’s just worded badly.

      For IMM1285, write ‘N/a,’ ‘not applicable’ or ‘unknown’ for anything referencing intended work. Leave the drop down menus blank.

      Yep, digital signature for all of them once you are submitting ALL of them. So no scanning or actual signing required!

  136. Kat says:

    Hey Gemma,

    Thank you so much for this guide and answering questions, you are a superstar! I applied to kompass when I was at home in the UK but have now moved back to Australia and have just received my CAL. When I upload documents to CIC my address will be different and I also have a new job which wasn’t on my previously uploaded CV. Any ideas of what to do? Should I leave my Australian address out?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Kat,

      I would keep everything as up to date as possible (so upload a new resume) and include a few notes within a ‘Letter of Explanation’ – just mention you have moved since you applied for the CAL and why some of the stuff looks different. Keep it brief :)

  137. Anthony says:

    Looks like the Round 1 French Working Holiday visas went in only 2 minutes!!

  138. Sarah says:

    Dear Gemma,
    I have received my CAL (yeaayyy!!!) thanks to you and I am currently in Canada as a visitor with a British Passport.
    As you know, as a British Citizen on Visitor Status I will need to leave and enter every 6 months which I have been doing so. My next departure is in June.
    My question is, how will this effect my working holiday 2 year open work permit? I fear my open work permit will only be valid until the next leaving date stamped in my passport which is in June :(

    • Sarah says:

      Will I be able to stay in Canada during the work permit duration (24 months) without leaving?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sarah,

      As long as you have all of the necessary information information at the border (insurance, POE, proof of funds) the border officer should issue you with a 24 month work permit. It has nothing to do with the visitors stamp in your passport :) So yes, you can absolutely stay in Canada for the full 24 month duration without leaving.

  139. Lynsay says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I have received a CAL but the file they sent me is corrupted and I cannot open it, I am TERRIFIED no one will respond to my email in the next 14 days. Do you know if there are any other ways to contact someone about issues like this other than through Kompass? I have tried ALL the pdf readers I know and all say it’s a corrupted file. Could cry.
    Lynsay.

    • Anthony says:

      Hi Lynsay,

      Try contacting them via the “report an issue” on your Kompass login page. They got back to me pretty quickly. Failing that I would at least upload o letter of explanation to CIC until you’re able to get a non-corrupted copy.

      Ant

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Great advice Anthony! Thanks – I’m on the road right now so it is hard to reply at the same speed as I was previously able to!

        • Lynsay says:

          Thank you so much Anthony I got the Cal downloaded after they contacted me back :) and thank you Gemma for this page, it’s been an absolute gem!

          Lynsay.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lynsay,

      Oh no! Just to check, have you downloaded it to your desktop and you’re opening it from there? Have you tried different computers? I imagine you have/are, but had to make sure! Try emailing question@cic.gc.ca with ‘URGENT!!’ in the title and submitting a support form here http://kompass-iec-eic.international.gc.ca/feedback.aspx?Lang=eng

  140. Ian says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Great guide! Downloaded the e-book and it is awesome!
    Quick question regarding my CV/Resume; The one I uploaded to Kompass in Stage one was fairly basic, and all my education qualifications etc were UK-based (i.e. grades rather than GPA). For Stage 2 do I have to provide a better version? If so is there a guide on converting your UK CV to a Canadian Resume?

    Thanks so much!

    Ian

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ian,

      Most people I have seen are just uploading the same resume for Stage 2 as in Stage 1. Thank you for purchasing the ebook!! :)

  141. luke says:

    Hi gemma, really helpful page. I’m from NZ our IEC opens soon but my passport is only valid for 6 months. Is it possible to apply with this passport and arrive with a different one? Do you know how many releases they do for NZ? Thanks!

    • Mike Li says:

      Hi Luke,

      I would probably go ahead and apply for a new passport (not sure how long it takes but I got my Australian passport from the Australian Embassy in Japan in less than 10 days.). You’ll probably need it sooner or later. If it opens after that then great, just apply with the new passport. (also with the new passport, you won’t have to photocopy/scan any pages besides the photo page, since it’s new).

      Just my thoughts.
      Mike

  142. Anthony says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Rather depressingly the Round 2 French visas all went in 2 minutes again and I didn’t manage to get one… (I think everybody must already have their Kompass accounts filled in, except for the Working Holiday option).

    Can you recall how many rounds for France there were last year?

    Many thanks,

    Anthony

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Anthony,

      Another insanely fast round for the French! Sorry to hear you missed out. Last year there were 3 rounds.

  143. Jacob says:

    Hi Gemma

    so round 2 is opening on Tuesday! All i need to do is select IEC category and i can then submit as i’ve filled out all the other fields. I’m concerned however about one section and thats my previous participation date. I entered the date of the round my application was submitted laste year, (17/12 round 2) as opposed to the date i crossed the border. I’m pretty sure that was the date they asked so i’ve given the right information. could you confirm which one it is as i dont want to waste time checking and possibly missing out in round 2

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      Check out the new FAQ I added to this guide today – “I did not manage to submit in an earlier round (but entered everything except ‘IEC category’), what do I do now?” for tips about submitting in round two.

      Regarding your previous participation, you will need your old WTN or Application year/month. So if you applied on 17th December in 2013, you can enter 2013-12

  144. Frances Rougvie says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Got a slight problem. Basically, I’ve been locked out of my mycic account for 24 hours and my POE expires on the 6th of April. Do you think I can create a new one and start from scratch (even though I still have my other one) Or do you think there is someone I can phone to unlock my account?

    Starting to feel really stressed now.

    Thanks,

    Frances

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Frances,

      I’m so sorry I did not manage to email you back on time, I had no internet access 3rd – 11th April. Did you manage to sort your MyCIC out?

  145. Emma says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Great website, very helpful and nice to know I’m not alone in these stressful times!
    I’m Currently in Canada under the IEC initiative 2014 from the UK, my work permit just expired on March 31st. So now where its says “Are you currently in Canada under the IEC initiative?”..Do I still tick yes, could you shed some light for me here? Also, if I’m lucky enough to get in the second round, am I going to need a ACPO from the UK or Canadian police check?
    Kind Regards,
    Emma

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Emma,

      I imagine your question relates to the CAL application within Kompass and so you have already completed this? I am sorry I didn’t back to you on time – I had no access to internet from 3rd – 11th April. What did you end up doing?

      You do not need a Canadian police check unless asked, but do need a recent one from the UK (less than 3 months old at time of application).

      • Emma says:

        Hey Gemma,
        Yes my question was in relation to the CAL application, I ticked ‘yes’ in the end. I received my NOR yesterday, so fingers crossed!!
        I applied for a UK police certificate yesterday too, using the new online process, which is great…would have been time consuming sending documents back and forth to my mum!
        I guessed something was wrong with the website, couldn’t load this page for a couple of days. Thank you for getting back to me, helps by knowing I’ve done the right thing applying for the police certificate.

  146. Rachel says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Great website and really really helpful blog thank you!
    Just a quick question, I’m living in the US right now but haven’t stayed in the US for longer than 4 months at a time, adding my trips together I have stayed here for longer than 6 months though, do I still need a US police check as well as a UK one?
    Keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow!

    Thanks Gemma :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachel,

      How did round 2 go for you? Going by CIC’s requirements, it sounds like you would not need one so I would not get one upfront. If they want one, they will ask you and then give you some time to apply for one. It’s not an automatic rejection for not including a police cert.

      • Rachel says:

        Hi Gemma,

        Thank you for asking, out of 2 laptops and an ipad, the ipad was the quickest and managed to through at 3 minutes past, thankfully I’m on the waiting list.
        Now for the waiting game!
        I turn 31 next March, so I think this is my last year I can apply. Do you know if the cut off age is at the time of application or when the visa is accepted?

        Thanks Gemma :)

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rachel,

          You have to be 30 at the time of the CAL application in Stage 1. So as long as you have a WTN you are all good, even if you turn 31 the day after!

  147. Jacob says:

    Hi Gemma
    So I’m applying through MyCIC at the moment and I’m not sure what to upload for the ‘Travel Itinerary’ section. I don’t want to book a flight because there’s no guarantees so what would you suggest would be a good substitute? I was thinking a brief paragraph of which airport I’m flying to with rough dates and intended city of stay etc

    • Lynsay says:

      Hi Jacob I just put that I was planning to head over to vancouver in January 2016 and would be staying in a hotel whilst I looked for work and accommodation! Put my full name in too. Was a really short and simple page on Word.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      Exactly right, just type up a short explanation of your plans so far. Lots of people will not have any flights booked – after all, you can arrive in Canada up to a year after receiving your LoI.

  148. Danielle says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I am sorry to ask you but I am so confused and worried about my next visa, and was wondering if you could help! I am currently in Canada on my first IEC visa that expired on March 27th. I went to see an immigration lawyer who informed me I could benefit from ‘implied status’ if I applied for an extension before my visa expired and did not leave Canada while the decision is made. He said that even though the extension will be rejected I can carry on working until the decision has been made (which I have been doing). I managed to get though the second round of the IEC visas on April 7th and need to make my payment and send my resume, but I have since heard so many different things about implied status and am now worried that it is not legal for the IEC visa and that my next one will be rejected? I have an implied status letter from my lawyer but I am worried he has told me the wrong information! If you know any info on this that would be great!
    Many thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Danielle,

      This is a really common question and the answer is going to sound strange…but your lawyer is wrong (I know, I know, crazy, but please read on). It is a massive grey area and lots of lawyers are wrongly informing people to do this, basing their advice on information that is accurate regarding other types of work permits. The IEC work permit is not a regular one and conforms to different rules. The only implied status available on an IEC work permit is that of visitor status only, after you have applied for a new visitors visa. If you work on implied status after your IEC ends, you are working illegally. This link explains it better than I ever could! http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Implied_Status_after_an_IEC_Work_Permit_ends

      • Danielle says:

        Oh my god, that is crazy that immigration lawyers give the wrong information! I just trusted that what he was telling me was right, and I had to pay for the information! Thank you so much for the advice. Do you know what I need to do from here? Is it likely that my second visa will be rejected and I would have to stop working from now? I am so frustrated that he has given me the wrong advice!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          It is absolutely frustrating but your lawyer was probably not telling you the incorrect information intentionally. The truth is that many Canadian border officers even do not understand the ins and outs (or even the basics!!) of the IEC work permits…and they’re the ones issuing them. The general consensus from most immigration lawyers is that the IEC is “just another” work permit, which simply isn’t true. Your second IEC will not neccessarily be rejected – IEC/CIC will be able to see you applied for an extension but without research they would automatically know you were working. Even if they did, they may have some lenience considering it is a common mistake and your first IEC only recently expired. If I were you though, I would stop working ASAP. I know it’s difficult, especially as your employer is unlikely to understand but it would be worse if you continue working.

  149. Rob A says:

    the family information form in mycic would like me to say that my spouse will accompany me. Even though no one is allowed to accompany on a wh visa. My wife will have her own visa so will I just say I’m going alone? Or include a cover letter to say I’ve filled it in as she will accompany me but on a separate visa?? Ta

  150. Jacob says:

    Hi Gemma

    I may have a problem. I completed the mycic section and uploaded all required documents (double and triple checked), accepted and digitally signed application. Went to the payments page and realised I needed to top up my credit card to make the payment as i couldnt do it with a debit card. So I did that and have logged back in to mycic and the staus of my app is “processing submission”. I haven’t payed yet so will it be rejected and possibly compromise my application and place on the quota? What can I do to rectify this?

  151. Sabine says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I would like to get some clarification:
    I applied in March 2015 under the IEC Young Professionals and got refused because my job offer did not classify.
    So I tried to apply last week again when Germany opened under the Working Holiday program but got not through with my application…..
    So I am not sure why I did not make it? Is it because my internet is too slow or because I used the same Kompass Account than for my 1. application?
    All the required forms appeared under my existing Kompass Account except the IEC category only appeared at the set time when you could submit your application.
    >>>>Can I use the SAME Kompass Account for the second application again? <<<<<

  152. Sabine says:

    A soon answer would be appreciated because tomorrow Germany opens the application process again!
    Thanks a lot

  153. Sabine says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I would like to get some clarification:
    I applied in March 2015 under the IEC Young Professionals and got refused because my job offer did not classify.
    So I tried to apply last week again when Germany opened under the Working Holiday program but got not through with my application…..
    So I am not sure why I did not make it? Is it because my internet is too slow or because I used the same Kompass Account than for my 1. application?
    All the required forms appeared under my existing Kompass Account except the IEC category only appeared at the set time when you could submit your application.
    >>>>Can I use the SAME Kompass Account for the second application again? <<<<<
    A soon answer would be appreciated because tomorrow Germany opens the application process again!
    Thanks a lot
    It is really great to read along on your website…… I hope you have an answer for me too :))

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sabine,

      Without more info, I couldn’t tell you why your working holiday application did not go through. The quota ran out in just four minutes so it could have been a speed issue. I’m not sure if you can use the same Kompass account if you have already been refused for one category – it’s a bit of an unusual situation I have not come across before. If I were you, I would sign up for Kompass using a different email address and then complete everything again. Then when the program opens again you can just choose the working holiday category and you’re done! I would not risk using the same Kompass account again.

  154. Mairead says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Quick question. If you have prefilled out an application for a visa and you are waiting for the working holiday to go live. DO you refresh the page when you are logged into your compass account on the IEC category page. Or do you stay logged out and wait for the working holiday to go live?

    Thanks heaps,
    Mairead :)

    • Rob says:

      Hi! It’s the only way to guarantee entry!
      Don’t wait for the opening minute to log in.
      Be logged in, have the iec category section infront if you and refresh on the minute it opens.

      I did it last week thinking I might be the fastest person, I was 138th!!

      Good luck!

  155. Mairead says:

    Aw thanks so much Rob!!!

  156. Phil says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I’m waiting on my POE but just wondered if you knew the answer to the following:
    If successful (touch wood) I plan to enter Canada in March 2016 and my Passport expires at end of August 2017. I know that my passport will be less than the 2 years available but I am not planning on staying that long as have other travel plans.

    How do they allocate time on the visa when you arrive?
    Do they grant only for 1 or 2 year visas or can they do dates inbetween?

    I have existing trips planned this year and an ESTA on my current passport so would like to avoid getting a new one if necessary and renew it on my return (or in Canada if I can??)

    Thanks!

    Phil

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Phil,

      The border officer can issue a work permit for any length as they see fit. So if your passport expires at the end of August 2017, you will only be issued a work permit valid until the expiry of your passport (most likely before, to allow time to leave). Although you may not think at this time you want to stay in Canada the full two years, I would avoid limiting yourself before even arriving! I planned to originally only stay for one ski season and ended up doing three….and have now been here three and a half years total. My original plan was to go back to New Zealand after a year in Canada. Your plans may not end up changing, but it seems a shame to limit yourself in this way. So my advice would be to renew your passport before you get there, to open yourself to all opportunities.

      I’m not really sure what you mean regarding the ESTA – are you visiting the USA during your working holiday?

  157. Rachael says:

    Hi Gemma

    How are you?

    I’ve just noticed that I didn’t update my current job, I only got a new job 2 weeks ago and wasn’t sure if I wanted to stay in it, but didn’t update it in the application. Do you think I should send a letter of explanation to say why I haven’t updated it?

    Please let me know, I’m kinda freaking out :-/

    Many thanks
    Rachael

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rachael,

      I honestly wouldn’t worry about it. The resume is just for CIC’s records – it doesn’t affect your application. In the four years I have been assisting people with their applications, I have never heard of the CIC having an issue with someone’s resume.

      • Rachael says:

        Hi Gemma

        Thanks for getting back to me. I’m so confused with the stage two part of the visa. I haven’t got my CAL yet, but looking at the IMM1295E form and the document list and not sure about the following areas. If you could help me out, that would just be incredible:

        1. IMM1295E: I’m applying for the WH visa and in the ‘details of intended employment – location’. As I am applying the WH i’m not sure where I will be working and who they will be, what do I write here?

        2. Same document as above and the IMM5707E family information: How do I sign the document? Do I download it, sign and scan it back in?

        3. Document checklist: I don’t have any travel documents because I’m not sure when I’m going so what do I put down for this?

        Thanks in advance and sorry about all the questions :)

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rachael,

          1. Put ‘unknown.’ The IEC work permit is an open one so you are not expected to have any kind of employment lined up.

          2. As per the FAQ section in the guide….

          “Help! Some of the forms say I have to sign them. How can I electronically sign them?
          You do not need to sign each individual form. Validate them as prompted and once they are all submitted you will be asked to to complete an electronic signature (which involves ticking a box) on behalf of all of them.”

          3. Are you referring to the travel itinerary? If so, just write a basic account of your plans e.g. “After receiving my Port of Entry Letter of Introduction, I am likely to book a flight from London to Toronto, for arrival in September. I plan to find a job in the city, perhaps in office administration’ Something like that! Can be even more basic. There’s no precedent for it, since it has never been asked for before.

          • Rachael says:

            Hi Gemma

            Thank you so much for writing back s quickly and again for helping me out. I’m so glad I found your post, I’d be so lost without it and all of your help.

            Rachael.

  158. Jack says:

    Hey Gemma,

    So I am 334th on the waiting list. Could you give me any indication as to how likely it is weather I will get a visa or not?

    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jack,

      Assuming you are on the waiting list for the UK program, you are in with a good chance. Last year, someone who was #2780 was offered a place. You’d be surprised how many people drop out!

  159. Jacob says:

    Hello Gemma,
    Loving the website ! =)
    I plan to come to Toronto in September and take up my working holiday (I am from NZ, NZ Citizen). In December I am heading to Australia for a friends wedding then flying back to Canada to resume the rest of my visa. Do you know or has anyone had any problems flying back to Canada on a IEC visa ?

    I know it states on CIC website – The work permit will also state “This does not authorize re-entry.”

    Kinda worried about this line……

    Thanks
    Jacob
    Auckland NZ

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jacob,

      You can enter and exit Canada as many times as you like on the IEC work permit, but it alone does not guarantee re-entry to Canada (which is what the line about ‘does not authorise re-entry’ means). While you may have a valid work permit, you still have to be deemed admissible to Canada by the border guard. So for example, if you went back home for a few weeks and then committed some kind of crime, Canada reserves the right to not let you back in even if you have valid working status in Canada. Think of it as a ‘just in case’ clause – in reality, it is unlikely you would be refused re-entry as long as you have your passport and none of your circumstances have changed since your original entry.

  160. natasha says:

    Hello! Thank you for all of this useful information!
    My boyfriend has applied for a WHV (I am canadian, he is not) . We want to change his address to my address so that we can apply for common-law PR next year (we have been living together a long time now but are finding it hard to prove haha) He is on the final stage now, just waiting for the work permit to be approved. How can he change his permanent address in My CIC?

    Also, I think i read this on here but i can’t seem to find it now. With the country he is from, he can stay in canada for 6 months visa free. Is it possible for him to come into canada just on a visitor visa (visa free) for 6 months, then activate his working holiday visa after the 6 months by going to a border crossing at niagara falls or something? We want to get the most time in as possible as we will most likely have to wait a while for the common law PR application once we finally can submit it

    thank you!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Natasha,

      Once everything has been sent off, I’m not sure you can edit anything at that stage. Your boyfriend should however be absolutely fine to come to Canada on a visitors visa and then activate his IEC work permit near the end of this initial visitor status. He will either need to go on a short holiday to the USA and re-enter OR just flagpole at a border, which doesn’t involve entering the USA at all.

      • Natasha says:

        Thank you Gemma!
        so do you think it would matter or affect anything if he changes his address to my address now?
        we are having trouble with proof of cohabitation (my company provides my apartment so no lease, no joint bank account, just sharing expenses etc. ) so I want to change his address ASAP to start the 12 months of cohabitation necessary for PR.

        Thank you!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          I don’t think it would change anything, no. Do you have a joint bank account together? I would get one ASAP if you don’t! And make sure you book any future flights/travel together.

          • Natasha says:

            Okay thanks! I think I will use the online case specific form to send in that he changed his address to make sure. He changed it yesterday. And no we don’t have a joint bank account but can get one tomorrow! I will do that, thanks! We have booked all trips together since last year, and I have the receipts and everything to prove it.! we have been living together since last year but just have no way to prove it because our apartment is provided by my job(my name isn’t on the lease and we pay no rent), and bills aren’t even in my name, they are in the name of the person who lived in the apartment before me/ and my company. So it is really hard to prove!

            Thanks for your help!

  161. Ben says:

    Hey

    So I’m after a bit of advice with my application……

    I am now about to complete the IMM1295 form, however, am unsure what to put as my address and residency. I am currently in New Zealand on a WHV but I am only here for another few weeks so by the time the visa is (hopefully) granted I will no longer be here. I won’t be in the UK either as I will be travelling via SE Asia and Europe.

    Where should I put as my current address/residency? I was thinking of putting my UK address but also attaching a cover later explaining my situation. Any advice would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ben,

      The addresses do not matter too much (the CIC will not send you anything by mail) so just keep it as accurate as possible. If you are in New Zealand at the time of application, use a New Zealand address for the relevant sections.

  162. Luka says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have a question about resume, which is attached to the application for a working holiday visa. Can you write for a past experience student work and not regularly job, because I have not been regularly employed?

    Thanks for the reply and best regards,

    Luka

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Luka,

      You can include anything that is relevant on the resume, as per CIC’s template. Try not to worry about it too much; in all the years I have been helping people with IEC applications, I have never heard of anyone having issues from CIC regarding the resume. You do not need to have any kind of work experience to take part in the IEC program(s).

  163. Andy says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am confused about the question:”Have you visited or lived in any one of the designated countries for 6 consecutive months in the last year?” in the form of CIC.

    I has been living in USA for more than a year without traveling to any other countries. Should I answer this question “YES” or “NO”

    Thanks very much for your help.

    Andy

  164. Efrain says:

    Hello Gemma!
    I´m breaking my head with a question, and I would really appreciate some guidance. I applied for the working holiday and just got my CAL. I´m currently inside Canada as a visitor. I´m now filling the forms for MyCic and I´m not sure if in the field “country where applying” of the form IMM1295 I would have to enter my country of citizenship or Canada.
    I know that if I was here on a work permit i should put Canada, but because i´m on a tourist visa i´m not sure.
    Great gratitude for your help!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Efrain,

      Country where applying is where you are physically applying from, so in your case it would be Canada :) Hope this answer isn’t too late, I am travelling right now and have limited internet access.

  165. Steven says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have a letter of explanation for having no itinerary for MyCIC.
    Should I upload this under the itinerary section & ‘add letter of explanation’? or just the itinerary?

    Also digital signature will be a box you tick after the MyCIC document is submitted?

    Thanks for the help,
    Steven

    • natasha says:

      Hey,
      I’m no Gemma, and nowhere near as knowledgable as her about the IEC working holiday visa.. but for itinerary it doesn’t have to be an actual flight ticket or set plan at all, so for this section you shouldn’t need a letter of explanation.
      you should write out a simple plan that you have in a word document and send that as your itinerary. For example, for my application that i submitted last month i wrote something like.. i plan to go to toronto around september and stay with a friend in the GTA until I find a job. I plan to stay in or around toronto during the entire length of my working holiday visa.
      something simple like that! no need for a letter of explanation, just whatever you plan to do while you are in canada. it doesnt even have to be accurate! they aren’t going to follow up with you 10 months down the road to make sure you stuck to your proposed itinerary!

      and yes, the signature will be a box you tick at the end. No need to sign anything or print anything out ! just validate the application form by clicking “validate” to get the bar code at the end.. then send it all in and tick the box. don’t print out or sign anything by hand

      hope that can help!

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Natasha,

        Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to Steven! I am travelling right now so it is difficult for me to follow up on comments as quickly as I would like. This is a perfect answer, you took the words right out of my mouth! :) No letter of explanation needed – there is no precedent for the itinerary and very little guidance on it. So just write down all the info you have right now and it will be fine.

      • Steven says:

        Great.

        Thanks for that Natasha :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Steven,

      Check out Natasha’s answer on this – she took the words out of my mouth :) No letter of explanation needed.

  166. Steven says:

    Oh, and also < 4MB per file or in total before submitting to MyCIC?

    Thanks again,
    Stephen

  167. rebecca hughes says:

    hi hi!! I’m a little worried about al the comments stating there will not be a third quota for uk iec??? we are still waiting on stage one, because of a damned passport issue, what other ways are there of coming to canada, preferably to work, also i have my own business and wonder whether i need a visa if i am only earning from the uk or what i apply for if i want to earn from canada with it too?? i have a million and one questions but will try to refrain and hope to god to get this damned visa, otherwise we can come up to 6months no visa as long as not working or can we work?? :/ please reply soon, im going out of my mind :(

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rebecca,

      No it does not look like there will be a UK round 3 this year. The full quota was released in just two rounds instead. For other work options, check out the work permit sponsorship route (via Lmia) or Express Entry.

      • rebecca says:

        thank you for replying so quickly, the lmia option is quite tricky isnt it? and express entry i dont know much about except its expense? if the quota is filled but we get on the waiting list, what chances do we get of getting in? is the professional visa an option with my business, do we need to state it when we get into canada or only if we are planning on doing the business with canada therefore earning from canada? and am i right in saying we dont need a visa for up to 6 months if not working or can we work? thank you again

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Rebecca,

          Yep, CIC have made the sponsored work permit option (via LMIA) much more difficult in recent years. This is just from memory, but I can recall someone with a waiting list number in the 2000s was invited to take part in the 2014 program earlier this year. You’d be surprised how many people drop out. The list will go down a lot faster this year as well with applicants only having a 14 day window to upload all the documents for Stage 2.

          I’m not sure what you are referring to with the ‘professional visa’? As for declaring work, it really depends on what your business is. I don’t know too much about work permits/visas for business owners, sorry. As a British citizen, you will receive a six months (or three months if the border officer isn’t feeling too generous!) visitors visa on arrival. You cannot work on this, unless your business is online and with non-Canadian customers.

          • becca says:

            I thought so, sorry if im hounding you with questions, its just the first few answers i trust in a long time :/
            when you say it difficult, is it all on the site or could you say which bits make it difficult?
            the waiting list number has gone down, does that mean people are dropping out or being taken on and is it first come first served? we are in the 2000’s does that mean we may get a chance as of early next year?
            with lmia and the job reference, do you know how regular it is for employers to dedicate themselves to us foreigners?
            14day window from when, when we get our wtn number?!
            sorry im not sure what its called, selp-employment or business visa, something like that. my business is with aloevera and health and fitness, does that matter?
            oh god, is it just as often that british citizens get 3months as it is 6months because we were relying on that not being the case especially with us wanting to book the flights, do you think its best to get singles or returns then without know what permit you will get? my business would be online to uk customers although i wondered on applyin for permits while in canada so i could have canadian customers too..
            thank you for all your help again :)

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Becca,

            The waiting list is first come first served. So the person who has place number 1, will be invited to take part first. People may indeed be withdrawing from the waiting list though as well, so that can affect numbers.

            The 14 day window is after candidates have received their CAL in Stage 1. It is all explained in the guide above.

            Regarding the LMIA, CIC have made it more difficult for LMIAs to be approved. Job adverts have to be advertised for longer, there is a more limited number of roles eligible…etc. For more advice on work permits and PR options, I would check out http://britishexpats.com/ – they have some great wiki articles and forums to help you.

            If you are planning on entering Canada as a visitor, I would strongly urge you to get return flights OR a bus ticket into the USA at the end of your trip, to show intent to leave. In regards to the 3 month or 6 month thing, that is all dependent on the border guard. The majority (probably 90% I would imagine) of British visitors get 6 months.

  168. Steven says:

    Hi Gemma,

    My Police certs expire the 2nd and 9th of May. I got my CAL but yet to submit my documents.
    Will I be okay with these date before it actually reaches them once they are submitted.

    Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Steven,

      Up until yesterday, the CIC rule was that police certs have to be less than 3 months old on application. The update yesterday implies they are becoming more lenient (but I’d have to see it in practice before I believe it). Either way, as long as you submit your MyCIC soon, you should be fine.

  169. Jen says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I wonder if anyone has applied Working Holiday visa inside Canada? I’m applying my second terms for the Working Holiday, but I’m currently in Canada. I’m not sure they will deny me just because I’m inside? And if they do give it to me, should I go back to country of origin and fly back in Canada? Or I could just go to US, cross the border and get back in?
    Your help is kindly appreicated. Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jen,

      It is no problem at all to apply within Canada – a lot of people do. In fact, I did as well. Once you have received your POE after Stage 2 you will need to either take a short trip to the US (or another country if you have the money) and or simply flagpole at the border (this means you do not actually enter the US)

      • Jen says:

        Hi Gemma,
        Thanks for the clarification. I’m also turning 31 in June. If I got my Approved Stage 2. Do I have to immediately get my Working Holiday visa before I turn 31 (ie flagpole or visit US)? or it doesn’t matter?

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Jen,

          The important bit to get before you turn 31 is a WTN in Stage 1. After that, age doesnt matter.

  170. laura says:

    Hi!
    Having issue with something I did in the past. I got my first IEC visa in 2012. During that year in Canada I left Canada to go back to the UK for 2 months. I applied for the second IEC visa but as I had not had a permanent Canadian address for more than 6 months (first was 4 months, after the gap it was 3 months) I put my country of residence down as UK and citizen. Now as I am applying for PR I am petrified I did this wrong and they will find my mistake. I have always had a UK address (my parents) and have had mail send there all my life.
    Will this come back to bite me? Did I obtain my second IEC visa under false pretenses?
    I didn’t even put past residence down as Canada as I was a resident there for less than 6 months. Really worried now. Advice?

    • laura says:

      So I just found this:
      “All information collected under International Experience Canada will be retained for two (2) years after your application is submitted. It will then be destroyed.”

      So I guess any evidence of my IEC won’t exist after Aug this year?

      I did read somewhere that it was 2 years past maximum age though. Do you know what it might be?

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Basic evidence of your IEC would exist, but yes, most of the details will be deleted at some point. I’ve never read anything about the timeframe though.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Laura,

      I really don’t think it will be an issue. Personally, I wouldn’t class this as receiving an IEC under false pretenses (note: I am not affiliated with CIC, so this is just an opinion). It wasn’t a lie, just a mistake. And it wasn’t even a mistake referring to anything particularly important – the IEC is an ‘out of Canada’ application whether you are in Canada or not, the application process doesn’t change. Yes, in theory you should have put your residence down as Canada since you were physically there but on a practical level I’m not sure how much CIC really cares. They have never been *that* definite about definitions for so many things. I would try not to worry too much.

      • Laura says:

        Thank you, Gemma.
        I’ve suspected that it shouldn’t be too much of an issue but I have been worried. I have no idea what I was on at the time tbh. I have seen examples of CAIP and GSCM notes and they do seem basic (as in it will say I have had my max 2 IEC visas and any details about jobs I put down then – which will match my PR app).

        I would hate for an innocent mistake to hurt my future. I guess there’s nothing to be done now but wait for a PR ITA and the hope my paper IEC forms have been destroyed or they don’t bother to go look at them!

        Thank you, and you’re doing a great job. Wish I had found you for my last 2 IEC’s.

  171. Iona says:

    Hi there, I’m in a similar position as Laura, will all information be destroyed? I had to withdraw my application as my travel plans had to drastically change but I would still like a WHV in a year or two, would this be possible?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Iona,

      Most details IEC participation are deleted within a certain timeframe, but the basic details remain. After all, for most countries you can only have one in a lifetime, so that has to be tracked. When did you withdraw your application? If you withdrew your application before receiving a Letter of Introduction after Stage 2 you should be able to apply again. If you received a Letter of Introduction, I’m afraid that counts as a participation. So it depends on the rules of the country where you are from whether you can apply again.

  172. Rob says:

    Is anyone else bar myself and my wife receiving emails from cic to say there has been a change on their account, only to find nothing has changed? I’ve had 3 and my wife 2. There are no messages and there has been no change to any status????

    Also, I’m finding it annoying when I have top log in numerous times as the website kicks out often before I even get to fill in security question! Ta

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rob,

      These are nicknamed ‘ghost emails’ and are nothing to worry about. They don’t mean anything. Most applicants receive one or two during the process. Frustrating, but harmless!

      CIC are having major technical issues right now. Also frustrating!

  173. Katha says:

    Hey,
    thank you for your great guide, helps a lot!
    I have a question: I need a medical report/exam because I would like to have the opportuninty to work with children. The doctor said I need a UCI or UME number before he can start the medical report but I havn´t got this, the only numbers I have is the WTN, my account number, an application number and the payment receipt number… Where or when will I get these number? Please help I don´t know what to do…
    Greetings from Germany (sorry for mistakes)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Katha,

      You need to ask the certified panel physican for an “upfront medical.” The doctor sounds a bit confused, probably because they are probably used to dealing with people who have been requested to have a medical by CIC. The IEC is different. If you have never applied for any kind of Canadian work permit or visa before, you would not have a UCI number. If the doctor continues to refuse you an appointment, find the relevant details on the IEC pages for the medical and email/fax these to their office, with the important sections underlined or highlighted.

      I did an upfront medical for my Permanent Residency application – I remember the first place I called was quite rude about it, saying something like “you do not book an appointment for a medical until you are requested to have one, you need to wait” and then hung up on me. So I know how you feel!

      P.S. Your English is great!

  174. max says:

    Great Guide, Gemma, so helpful.

    You happen to know when the next application rounds start (I am German), roughly? I´d like to get a visa to work&travel in early 2016 (Jan-May). Do you think there will be another round before that?

    Thank a million!

  175. Efrain says:

    Hello Gemma!
    I have another question. I´m currently in Canada as a visitor and I´m going to do a flagpole at the border.
    And I´m thinking in what i´m going to take there regarding the proof of funds… Would cash be valid? Because I have my money here. Otherwise, I could open a bank account here in canada and present that. Would any of these two be valid?
    If both were valid, do you think any would be more convenient?

    if it was necessary I could manage to present an account from overseas , but if any of this options is valid i´d rather go with one of them!
    Thanks very much again for your help.
    And as I said, we love you!
    Best

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Efrain,

      You can absolutely bring cash to show as proof of funds. I wouldnt personally due to the security risk, but it is up to you. A Canadian bank account (or one from another country) would be fine too, or a combination of bank account and cash.

  176. Lizzie says:

    Hello Gemma,

    Many thanks for this very useful guide to the IEC Canada visa – it has helped me so much throughout my application.

    I am waiting on my PoE letter now and starting to research flights. I will probably go for the True Traveller insurance as you recommended. I was wondering whether there are any requirements for me to buy a return ticket – either for the insurance or the visa itself – as I would prefer not to yet, not knowing exactly when I’ll fly home.

    Apologies if this has been asked before anywhere, and thank you very much again for your help!

    Lizzie

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lizzie,

      You absolutely do not need to buy a return flight, for the IEC visa or for True Traveller insurance. For the IEC requirements however, you must have proof of money to hand to purchase a return flight…so consider around $500-$700 on top of the regular $2500 proof of funds required.

  177. Anna says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I’ve created a Kompass account for Canada (to practice) so I can be prepared when my own country opens, Spain. Can I use the same email address I used for Canada to create the account for Spain ? I’m worried it might not work.
    Thanks!!
    Anna

  178. MEG says:

    Hi
    How does being on the waiting list affect couples, itf the numbers on the list are 35 apart? If one acepts, there is no guarantee that the other will be offered a place.
    Meg.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Meg,

      Im afraid it is something you will have to wait and see about. Being only 35 places apart however is a very good thing!

  179. DEB says:

    Hi Gemma,
    My brother has applied for an IEC but has been told they require more information we are in the process of getting the information but he is wondering if he is able to go to Canada for a holiday while the application is still being processed and then go back later if it gets approved. Do you know if he is able to do this or if he just has to wait till it is all finished.
    Deb

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Deb,

      Yes, your brother would be able to go to Canada on a holiday first. Make sure he has return flights and/or substantial funds to show he will not try to work while waiting.

  180. Alex says:

    Hi there!

    This is a common issue but I haven’t been able work out the exact answer.

    I am Australian and applied and received my CAL. There is an unlimited quota for Australians this year.
    I then began collecting and uploading all the documents needed for the stage 2 visa application. Seeing that I had two months to upload this stuff, I completely forgot the CAL had an expiry date of two weeks (SUCH a stupid system, by the way!). It then expired just a few days before I was ready to lodge my visa.

    I need to lodge my work permit application ASAP.
    I went on and withdrew my CAL application but it hasn’t processed yet. There is no option to lodge another application as yet.
    I also sent two urgent messages via My Kompass account but haven’t received a reply (it’s only been about 4 days)

    Do I assume that once the withdraw is processed, the button to reapply will appear?
    I was tempted to lodge my work permit with all the required documents, including my expired CAL and a letter explaining I was awaiting a new one but decided against it for fear of rejection. As there are unlimited spaces for Australians, I will definitely obtain a new CAL which I understand is different to people from other countries who may lose their place in the quota. They really should have the CAL expiry match the work permit application expiry!

    Ah well…
    Any advice?
    I am just waiting for the ‘apply now’ button to reappear – nervously!

    Thanks so much 
    Alex

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Alex,

      I hope this all works out for you. I dont really have any advice though regarding it, its not something Ive heard about happening much. The 14 day expiry is indeed crazy but at least it will speed things up for people on the waiting lists for other countries.

  181. MEG says:

    Hi
    Does anyone know how couples can deal with the waiting list issue when the two numbers are 35 apart? If one is offered a place and accepts, there is no guarantee that the other will be offered a place. Is there any way round this?

    Meg.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Meg,

      As per my other reply, you will have to wait it out. CIC evaluates applications individually.

  182. Kaja says:

    Hi Gemma!

    I am applying fot the WHV and I already got Notification of submission – submit payment and required documents. First I opened IEC Participation Fee Payment and I successfully paid IEC prodram participation fee (I also got an email that my transaction was processed successfully), but then my only option was to click PRINT (below this confirmation) or CONTINUE (on the top) and I thought that I need to print this confirmation, but my printer didnt work, so I was on that page for a while, but my printer didnt and didnt work soooo… I just clicked CONTINUE (on the top of confirmation), but my login session has expired, because I was trying fix my printer. When I log in again, MY PARTICIPATION FEE PAYMENT was LOCKED and now I can not open it anymore or fix anything.
    So now I am wondering, is there anything I could do?
    Is it possible that this was the end of this section, so I actually fill everything and thats why this section is now locked??

    Thank you very much!!

    Have a nice day! =)

    Kaja

  183. Luka says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I have a questions about filling forms uncorrectly. When i was selecting country/region of birth, i choose the wrong country.
    I am on a waiting list(wtn 93, qoute was 85) and i did this one mistake of chosing the wrong country.
    What do you think? Is there any chance to get visa?

    Thank you very much,,

    Luka

  184. Ross says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am aware that once I arrive in Canada I will need to show the officials my: port entry letter, proof of insurance coverage, and my bank statement proving that I have at least $2500 CND. I was wondering if you could inform me of whether I not I will also need to have a return flight out of Canada to be granted entry?

    kind regards Ross

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ross,

      You either need a return flight OR funds to buy one. So make sure you have around $500-$700 funds on top of the (minimum) $2500 you already have.

  185. Isabell says:

    Hi Gemma!

    Thanks for your awesome guideline!
    First problem: I neither can’t save my CAL as pdf nor can I print that. How can I do that to upload it in stage 2? I’m just able to open the file and read it.

    Second: What Number should I fill in the form Application for a Work Permit under the point file in the right hand upper corner? WTN or Account Number?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Isabell,

      Have you got the latest version of Abode? And you are viewing your CAL on a computer, not a phone?

      I dont have access to the form right now (I am travelling with very limited internet), so apologies, I do not know offhand.

  186. Isabell says:

    One more question…
    Do I really have to do the medical test at this stage of application? I really want to work with children, but I don’t want to spend that much money before my Visa will be definitely confirmed. I have heard that some Au Pairs did the test just after they entered Canada.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Isabell,

      You can have a medical later when in Canada and then return to a border to have your work permit updated.

  187. mari says:

    hi Gemma,
    thank you so much for this amazing guide as this visa malarky is cray cray. i received my port of entry from 2014 IEC program. ive got until august 2015 to enter Canada. just need to make sure – do i still have the two years available?? (coming form Ireland). also my passport expires in august 2016. ive seen that the border control will only give you a visa until your passport expires-so should i apply for a new passport now and just bring the old one with me rather than trying to apply for a passport when i am in canada?? thanks so much!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Mari,

      Yes, if you have all the right documentation on arrival, you will receive a two year work permit. However, if your passport runs out soon, your work permit will expire when your passport does. So get a new passport before you go and then when you arrive, let the border officer know you have had a new passport since your application. Bring the old one too, just in case.

  188. Becca says:

    okay so you mentioned before that it depends on what my business is to whether i need a visa i think, its under an umbrella business that is already set up in Canada called ForeverLiving that sells aloevera products, so how would that effect my application for a visa? and okay so i can book return flights set over 6months and the visa man should abide with the fact i will be leaving the country within that period? and i can apply to visas whilst in Canada no matter which one-how do i go about this? the roles for lmia that you mentioned that are eligible, is a list of this on britishexpats? and also i hope yuo are still having an amazing trip :) i love your blog

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Becca,

      Yes, you can apply for most (I say most, as there may be some types I am unaware of) visa/work permit types while in Canada. Usually, you will have to then hop the border and come back to Canada to activate them once approved.

      Check out the Canada Wiki page on British Expats – it will help you out a lot more than I ever could! It takes you through each immigration route into Canada.

      With return flights booked, you should be absolutely fine to get the six months visitors visa.

      • becca says:

        Okay great, thank you ! Now i saw you told someone earlier about medical exams, since the cut off with the visas here, we cant get a medical exam until we have the visas or they are little more underway so.. we are planning on going over with visitor visas, working on my online business there but if the visa starts to work itself out can we get a medical over in Canada so we can work with kids etc?
        My problem with the wiki page, does it have somewhere where i can ask questions like yours here because i would like a little more detail and confirmed answers..
        Fab! Flights wise we think we’ve exhausted our options so any advice on best flight companies and cheap deals?
        Also going through your blog and cheap travelling, we are underage for a campervan and wondered if you had ideas on other options or sites/blogs you trust that help with this?
        Again, thank you so so much!

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Becca,

          You can get an ‘upfront’ medical (upfront means it has not been directly requested by CIC) either before you go to Canada or while you are there. Keep in mind that medicals are only valid for visa/work permit applications within a year i.e. you have a medical June 2015, it is only valid for applications until June 2016.

          British Expats has a forum with many useful people on it, though doing a certain amount of research before asking questions is usually really appreciated :)

          I have flight advice in my ‘Ultimate Guide to a Working Holiday in Canada’ eBook (link found within sidebar and at the bottom of this application guide)….Skyscanner is always a good place to start though!

          There’s a large damage excess for insurance, but drivers aged over 18 can hire a campervan through Wicked Campers (we actually own a vehicle of the same variety they rent out).

          • becca says:

            Yeah, thats what we thought, is it more expensive to get it done in Canada?
            ok will do then thank you :)
            we have been looking through you ebook and will be investing when we have our finances in order :)
            oh fab thank you, we were also looking at different options with accomodation, any thing on rentals and motels, good sites to use?

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            It’s usually cheaper to get it done in Canada, so definitely something to keep in mind!

            AirBnB is awesome!

          • becca says:

            hello again, thank you again or all your guidance, just a question im waiting to hear back from british expats, i will be getting a tourist visa when i arrive for a 6month period with ourreturn flights booked, do we need proof of funds and for how much?

          • Gemma Gemma says:

            Hi Becca,

            That’s a difficult one. You’ll need proof of funds to show you can support yourself while you travel, so that depends on your travel plans. 6 months is a long time and if you’re planning to stay in somewhere like Vancouver or Toronto, living and visiting costs can be high!

  189. David says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Thanks for the great guide you’ve put together, it’s very helpful. One issue I’ve got is when validating the IMM1295 (main application) form. It responds saying “Validation completed successfully” and creates a 5th page in the form however the barcodes do not appear on the page.
    I ensured my JavaScript settings were turned on and tried again on a fresh form per the websites instructions detailed in the helpdesk: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=767&t=23

    Do you have any advice on what to do in this situation? I’m currently halfway through my 14 days to submit all documents and would obviously like to submit everything correctly first time.
    Thanks in advance for any insights you can provide!

  190. Sarah says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I received a letter from cic mistakenly thinking its my POE. Do you by any chance know roughly how long POEs are issued after submission of additional documents!? Do you think my application will be treated as an applicant who has submitted his/her application on that same day!? My POE would have been issued on Thursday if it wasn’t for my second police clearance confusion. I submitted the second stage application on the 31st and was in UK Round 1 (thanks to you) Xx

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Sarah,

      POEs are being issued all over the place; there doesn’t seem to be much rhyme or reason regarding it. Some people from the UK’s Round 1 have received them within four days while others are into their third week. I haven’t really noticed any patterns yet. I wish there was a clearer system!! But until then…!

  191. Lisa says:

    Hi Gemma,

    This website has been a godsend to me btw. Applying to Canada has never been an easy road for me and right now filling out these forms it’s proving more difficult. Seems to be the little niggly things that I have issued with. I wonder would you have any advice on this family form? The IMM5707. It states to name all siblings etc…yet there is only Section A (you, spouse, parents), Section B (your own children) and C (signature?). I cannot seem to find the supplementary form anywhere, as it is this 5707 that has to be used? Any info would be GREATLY!!!! appreciated.

    Cheers,

    Lis

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lisa,

      The bit referring to siblings is a mistake, it’s something from an old form that was left in accidently! So ignore it and fill in as normal :)

  192. Vas says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I sent my Stage 2 application on 6th April 2015 from Sydney, Australia as I am an Aus Citizen. I have not yet received my POE. I am on the 6th week now from when I sent it. Do you think it will come by the end of this week? I am getting worried. My Status is still Open. I haven’t needed to send any Additional Documents.

    Cheers,
    Vas

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Vas,

      The POEs are really being received all over the place…there doesn’t seem to be any concrete system so far. So it is very difficult to say! Try not to get worried, there are a lot of other people in a very similar position/timeframe.

    • Alex says:

      It’s so irritating that their website still reads 6 weeks processing time but so many people don’t receive them till weeks after this… I planned to lodge giving me enough time plus a few weeks’ buffer before I am flying out but it seems that may not be enough and i’ll need to enter as a tourist first. I was planning to travel anyway, it’s just annoying they can’t give vaguely accurate timeframes.

      • Gemma Gemma says:

        Hi Alex,

        Sorry to hear your work permit is taking a while. CIC is an exceptionally slow moving organisation, and the IEC really isn’t a priority for them. I wish the system could be more like the ones in New Zealand and Australia with applicants receiving working holiday visas practically overnight. At least the IEC program’s processing time still reads in the low number of weeks – some of the waiting times for some categories of permanent residency are listed in years!

  193. James says:

    Hi Gemma

    I have uploaded all of the required documents on mycic account, but when i am trying to pay the work permit fee the payment keeps failing? My credit card is fine, as i work in a bank, do you know if there is an issue with the payment process or have you heard of nayone else having the same problem?

    Thanks for your help with my query

    all the best
    James

  194. Faith says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am applying for the working holiday visa to Canada and I don’t think I will get the police report back in time to submit with the supporting documents before the deadline. Do I have to upload the letter of explanation for when the police advised I would receive it by in the allotted box for the police report, or should it be uploaded in the allotted box for letter of explanation and I just leave the police report upload empty?

    Please advise,
    Thank you!!!!!

  195. Vas says:

    Dear Gemma,

    Thank you for your timely response. Is it worth emailing CIC once I have hit the 42nd day and it is has still not come?

    Cheers,

    Vas :-)

    • max says:

      I wouldn’t bother Vas, I’m over 42 days and my application approval hasn’t started yet. I received an email last week from CIC letting me know there has been no updates since my last login and thanking me for my patience. Cheers

  196. Vas says:

    Hi Max,

    Thank you for the reassurance. I received the same email from CIC also. They also said no updates. What date did you send your Stage 2 application?
    I am just a little worried as I have a job lined up the week after which I may have to push back a bit later….

    Thank you :-)
    Vas

    • Jessie says:

      Hi Vas,
      are you still waiting on your POE? My boyfriend and I applied as Australian citizens on the 6th of April as well and still both have our status as open with nothing changed since we received the letter on the 6th of April saying they had received it. We are currently in limbo overseas waiting to receive it so we can enter canada.
      Thanks
      Jessie

      • Vas says:

        Hi Jessie,

        Yes I am still waiting. In fact I feel so anxious waiting every single day because I have job lined up for me also….and they are waiting….I feel so bad….the worst part is I can’t call the CIC being abroad….I hope you we get our POE’s real soon Jessie. The wait is really agonising. It has been about 44-45 days now and still nothing….do you think we will get our POE’s soon? I did send my Case Specific Form but nothing still :( my status is also Opened and Not Started.

        I hope it comes through soon for all of us :)

  197. Shirelle says:

    Hi Gemma,
    You seem to have a great understanding of the CIC Working Holiday Visa.
    Im just a little stuck I’ve uploaded all my documents
    CV/Resume (required)
    Passport or travel document (required)
    Digital Photo (required)
    Police Certificate (required)
    Family Information Form (IMM5707) (required)

    Except the IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter (required)?
    Not sure why its saying I have to upload this? Last time I applied for a Visa this letter was sent to me after I uploaded all of the above documents?

    So confused!
    Please Help :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Shirelle,

      The IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter (CAL for short) is sent to applicants after successfully completing Stage 1. The section you are referring to (regarding uploading digital photo, forms, police certs etc) is Stage 2, after which candidates receive a Port of Entry Letter of Introduction (POE for short) if successful. The POE is what you need to enter Canada and receive an IEC work permit. I think you have the CAL and POE mixed up, which is very easy to do! :)

  198. Harry says:

    Hi Gemma,

    Please excuse me if my query has been answered by you or others, I have followed this post since the IEC opening and it certainly helped me out immensely so wanna say thank you first, here it goes my question, as I applied in March like most followers here I’m still waiting for the work permit to come through, but I’m quite eager to jump the gun a bit so if I travel to Canada as a tourist (visa free for 6 months?) while awaiting the IEC result, and once I get the result from them, can I then travel to the states and come back to Canada to activate the work permit at the immigration? Thanks in advance.

    Regards,
    H

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Harry,

      It is fine to enter Canada before receiving your POE (after successfully completing Stage 2). If you haven’t got a return flight booked, make sure you have some proof of funds to hand, even just for entering as a visitor. The guard needs to be sure you are not going to work illegally while you are a visitor. Once you have your POE, go on holiday to the USA or just do a border hop to receive your work permit when re-entering Canada.

  199. Jessie says:

    Hi gemma,
    My boyfriend and I applied separtely for IEC’s as australian citizens but from america as thats where we were working at the time. We submitted stage 2 on the 6th of april and still have our status as open. We havent had any update from them since the 6th of april when we got the letter stating they had recieved it.
    We sent a case specific enquiry off as we are currently floating around waiting for the visas to come through. Is there a timeframe for case specific enquiries to get replied to by? Or even how long we could be waiting to hear about our visas?

  200. Jessie says:

    Also i forgot to mention, our police checks did not come through intime when we applied so attached a letter of explanation with our recipt stating we had applied. But when we sent the case specific enquiry we attached the AFP report. We havent been asked to submit any forms yet? Do u think we will get denied because of this?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jessie,

      CIC isn’t the best when it comes to deadlines, and the IEC program really isn’t a priority for them. So you could be waiting a while yet – I’m afraid I don’t have a timeframe to offer you for either the enquiries or the work permit itself. Not submitting the police certs however shouldn’t be a problem, as long as you included a letter of explanation.

  201. Jessie says:

    Hi gemma, thanks for your response its great to be able to ask questions when cic is so hard to contact about queries. I have one more question in regards to travel insurance. Are you able to have an initial 6 month travel insurance and extend it once your in canada for another 6 months or year? Or will this mean when my visa is approved and i enter the country i will only be given a 6 month visa as thats all i would have for travel insurance?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jessie,

      You will need insurance to cover the full length of your intended stay in Canada. So if you only enter with proof of 6 months of insurance, you are risking only being given a 6 month long IEC work permit. A lot of people entering Canada on the IEC do not get asked for any kind of proof of insurance, but it is not worth risking it in my opinion. Not only for IEC purposes but in general (medical costs in Canada are crazy expensive, with or without provincial health cover).

      • Jessie says:

        thank you so much, we will make sure we have insurance for the 2 years! such a help. This process is crazy and forums and blogs like yours have allowed me to understand it and answer my questions!
        Cheers!

  202. Niamh says:

    Hi Gemma
    Amazing work in putting all this information together! I have a slight issue that you might be able to help with.God help me but I have spent hours googling and emailed Kompass three days ago and I have not received a response as yet. Im sure they are busy.

    I applied for stage 1 (Kompass) and I have received CAL. Unfortunately I am not in a position to complete stage 2 of the process in time. Can I reapply again in the future when circumstances are different? Or have I messed up my only opportunity to go to Canada on a working holiday visa? BTW I’m apply from Ireland. Thank you in advance!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Niamh

      No problem! As long as you do not complete Stage 2 and receive your Port of Entry Letter of Introduction (POE), CIC do not consider that you have taken part in the IEC. So if you withdraw your application at this stage OR do not upload any documents for stage 2, you are fine to apply another year. Receiving a CAL alone does not mean you have taken part in the program.

  203. Vas says:

    Dear Gemma and Jessie,

    I received my POE early this morning Sydney, Aus time :-)
    Thank you for your amazing help and reassurance.

    I hope Jessie, you and your partner receive your POE shortly or have already :-)

    All the best.

    Cheers
    Vas :-)

    • Jessie says:

      Congrats Vas, so exciting. Yes we woke up to contact from them asking us to upload our police report as it hadn’t come through in time when we applied, so hopefully they have everything now and it wont be long till we get our POE :)

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Congratulations Vas! Super happy for you. :) Happy travels and adventure in Canada! Let me know if I can be any more help.

  204. Cassandra Lowe says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I was wondering if you could give me some guidance, I have applied for my IEC Visa. I am currently in the process of applying for the work permit. I didn’t upload my Police check on my application and they have come back and asked me to submit along with a traffic history which I have done but it asked for an expiry date. Not knowing what this was and it in the excitement and rush I put todays date. After a friend told me that the expiry date is actually 1 yr from issue of the certificates. Will the embassy come back and ask me to revise/resubmit this? I am scared they may flat out reject my submission.
    Many Thanks for your advise and help
    Cassie

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Cassandra,

      I would hope that CIC will notice the mistake themselves and it will be a no-issue. CIC however isn’t the most thorough of organisations so it *is* possible that someone may overlook it – there have been quite a few problems with police certificates this year (one person uploaded a very new police cert from the UK and their application was rejected for having an out of date police cert, another person had only visited New Zealand for a month as a visitor and was asked for a NZ police cert) so I wouldn’t put it pass them. I would try not to worry too much however as if it happens, submit a Case Specific Enquiry straightaway and your file should be looked at again. https://secure.cic.gc.ca/enquiries-renseignements/canada-case-cas-eng.aspx

  205. Anne says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I completed Stage 2 of my IEC application on the 2nd May. I am from QLD but I didn’t provide a Traffic history Report as I wasn’t specifically asked to upload this on the CIC website. I did provide my National Police Check.
    Did I miss something? I hope this doesn’t mean my application is going to be even further delayed if they request this!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Anne,

      All of the information regarding Australian police checks can be found here – http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/asia-pacific/australia.asp The police certificate guides in this section are primarily aimed at people applying for Permanent Residency but are applicable to people applying for work permits too. Having said this, if CIC want a traffic report from you, they will ask for it. I would consider applying for one in the meantime so you have it ready if/when asked. If you are asked for one (it is very possible you may not be), it is likely to delay your application.

  206. Ben says:

    Hi Gemma,
    I have a refused letter due to my IEC Conditional Acceptance Letter being expired (I’m Australian). Unfortunatey I turned 31 last week. I already have a Kompass account and a GCKey account which I did before I was 31 so I was wondering if you know if I am able to reapply or have I missed out. I went on my Kompass account and couldn’t see where I could go to reapply, if I am able to reapply do you know how. Thanks Gemma.
    Ben

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ben,

      It is my understanding that the age limit refers to the applicant receiving a WTN in Stage 1. So if you have to apply and use a different WTN (which I believe you would do if your CAL has expired) for a new application, you would sadly be now too old to participate in the IEC. I would still give it a go though, and perhaps message them in Kompass’s MyMessages explaining the situation and your WTN from your first application. You have nothing to lose.

  207. Ross says:

    Hi Gemma,

    I am a UK citizen that entered Canada on 24th of May. I arrived at Toronto airport with my POE, proof of funds and 24 months insurance cover. I was told by the custom/borders officials that UK citizens are only granted 12 month visas, not 24. When I suggested to the official that all the information on the government website states that I applied for a 24 month visa, they then showed me a list of countries that have a bi-lateral agreement with Canada for 24 month visas and the UK wasn’t one.

    Could you please offers any assistance in clearing things up for me, because all throughout the application process I was under the impression that UK citizens were granted one 24 month visa and now it looks like I’ll have to go through the protracted process of re-applying – if that’s even possible – at the end of the year? Any help or direction you could offer would be a huge relief, because the customs/borders officials seem to be telling me one thing and all the information available online tells me another. In addition if you point me in the direction of any government services that I could contact to discuss this issue, I know it might be a pointless endeavor, but I feel like I should complain about the complete lack of support and misinformation for what was a exceptionally long and expenses application process or, hopefully, find out that it was mistake and get granted my full 24 months?

    Kind regards
    Ross

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Ross,

      You are absolutely eligible for a 24 month visa, as per the new 2015 rules (as long as you passed all entry requirements). I can only think that the border guards showed you out-of-date information from 2014. I have heard of this happening before – working holiday visas are really not a priority for immigration staff, so there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding out there regarding them. This is the most recent bilateral agreement, posted to the CIC website on 30th January 2015. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/work/opinion/experience/bilat.asp The UK section states ’24 months one time.’

      You need to fix your current work permit while it is still valid i.e. do not wait until near the end of your current IEC work permit expiry. You will not be able to reapply as per the current rules – UK citizens are now only allowed one participation. It is important to contact CIC as soon as possible. First, I would contact the CIC call centre (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/contacts/index.asp). The staff there are not immigration agents so don’t neccessarily take what they say as gospel (they are notorious for giving out the wrong info), but they may be able to point you in the right direction. I’ve heard of people going to the border to correct work permits before, so depending on where you are, this may be the next best option. Print out all of the relevant information you can find regarding the UK program being 24 months or ‘up to 24 months.’ Bring your insurance documents.

      It is definitely not a pointless endeavor, I have heard about people fixing it before – you are eligible for the 24 months, you’ve paid the fees and you have the correct insurance. Good luck.

  208. Ross says:

    Hi Gemma

    I am UK citizen that arrived in Canada on IEC program on the 24th of May. When I arrived at Toronto airport I had my POE, proof of funds and 24 months insurance cover. I was told my the border official that UK citizens are only granted 12 month visa, not 24. I told the official that their website and all the blogs on the subject state that UK citizen are granted 24 month visas, the official then showed me a list of countries that have bi-lateral visa agreements with Canada for 24 month visa and the UK isn’t one.

    Could you please offer me any assistance as to why I was not granted a 24 month visa? In addition could you point me in the direction of any government services that I could contact directly to discuss this issue. I know if may prove to be a pointless venture, but I feel like I should complain about the complete lack of support and constant misinformation provided for application by the government websites? Any help or direction you could offer would be a great relief.

    kind regards
    Ross

  209. Alex says:

    Hi Gemma

    Thanks for your help, your site is very useful. It has been over 42 days since I submitted my work permit application on MyCIC. I logged in and it says my application status is open and a final decision has not yet been reached. Should I be concerned?

    Thanks!

    • Kat says:

      Hey Alex, I’m in the same boat! I’ve heard there’s a backlog but hopefully we should find out soon

      • Emma says:

        My final decision part so ‘Not yet started’ and I’m on day 48 since applying! Think lots of people are in the same boat, not heard of many/any people getting their PoE within 42 days!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Alex,

      As the wonderfully helpful other people have already mentioned, I would not worry. The CIC is notorious for running late with deadlines.

  210. Vikfee says:

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/…/te…/work/opinion/experience/index.asp

    Referring to the link above (section work permit eligibility / File assignment – Primary office) it seems that only applicants from the countries Australia, Chile, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, and United Kingdom will have their applications processed based on the CITIZENSHIP provided in 1295 form.
    Applicants from other countries will have processed their applications based on COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE provided in 1295 form.

    I am from the country not listed above; therefore, my application will go to the office based on my residency. However, I am currently in Canada and so I have to declare my Canadian residency in the form. I am very worried that my application may be refused if it will end up in the processing centre of Canada or US. (I heard the story of guy whos application was refused for the same reason).

    What should I do ?? Is there somebody who can help ? Is there anybody from different country then mentioned above, who applied from Canada and still got POE ?

    Thank you.

  211. Jessie says:

    Hi gemma,
    This should be my last question but thankyou so much for your help :)
    my boyfriend recieved his POE at the beginning of this week but i am still waiting on mine. We are flying out in a weeks time so i am praying mine comes in time but if not and I enter on a visitors visa and flagpole when it comes, what should I say to immigration/boarder when i arrive in vancouver. Ive read different stories and also people that have been sent home until their visas come.
    I dont want to lie, but i dont want to be turned away. What do you recommend i say if my poe hasn’t arrived and i enter on a visitors visa?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jessie,

      Yes, definitely do not lie. Bring proof of funds, to show you can support yourself while waiting for your POE. Have definite plans e.g. we will be staying in Vancouver for a week before travelling to Kelowna, and then the Rockies etc…show that you are a tourist, not someone planning to work. It may be worth buying a refundable train/bus ticket to the USA, to show you are planning to leave. You can then get a refund once you have your POE.

  212. Jasmin says:

    Hi Gemma,

    thank you so much for your Guide. It really is very helpful.:-)

    I have two questions that I hope you can help me with:

    1) I received my CAL and wanted to upload my documents within the MY CIC Account since I only have time until next friday. I was able to upload everything but the most important IMM1295. It says validation error when uploading it. Since the Application Guide says “If you are 18 years of age or older, sign and date in the boxes provided at the bottom of the page.” I printed the form and then scanned it. I think this is the problem. Because when uploading the form without my signature it works.

    Do you have an idea what to do now? Should I upload it without my signature?

    2) I am going on a vacation in Canada in July. If everything works out I might have my POL until then. I would`t want to activate it then though. Because I still have to work until November of this year in Germany. Do I have to activate the work permit in July? Or is there a chance to do it the next time I`m flying into Canada?

    Thank you so much!

    Best regards,
    Jasmin

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Jasmin,

      You do not need to physically sign anything within the IEC application. So just complete the form, validate and upload. You will do an ‘electronic signature’ when submitting all documents for Stage 2.

      Regarding the POE activation, you can activate it whenever you want. So when entering Canada on your holiday, just don’t mention the POE and you will receive visitor clearance. In the unlikely event that the border officer mentions it, just explain that you still have ties in Germany and will be coming out to live in Canada later this year. It is no problem – you have up to one year to activate the POE.

  213. Rob says:

    Hi Gemma,
    When applying in stage 2, there is a form that asks for spouse and parents info and whether or not they shall be entering with me.

    I stupidly only entered my spouse (own application), not even myself nor parents on this form as i believed it was literally just for those accompanying me. How much of an issue is this? Considering im not allowed dependents, im hoping not such an issue.

    ALSO, i’d like to use this post to find out exactly how long people are waiting for their POE. I’m on 50 days and on tenderhooks. I have everything cancelled for my intended leaving date in 4 weeks time. I havent flights booked just in case but anyone with a rough time of waiting will be of some comfort

  214. Lee says:

    Hi Gemma, thanks for the article…I had read about the 2014 process being in Dec/Jan and had assumed that future years would be the same – only to find out that this year it was March/April – any idea why the date change?? I turn 31 in January 2016 so was relying on the fact I’d be able to apply Dec 2015 for 2016…looks like this won’t be possible now?

    Bit gutted!

    Lee

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi there Lee,

      The IEC opening date changes every year. Historically it hss always been sometime Dec-May. From memory, I believe the 2014 program opened in Dec 2013. It could happen!

  215. Mary Ann Mendoza says:

    I am already a PR for past 2 years now here in canada and my cousin is asking me on how he can go here in canada even alone first to work. He is already 51 years old. I try to browse in the internet asking on how he can go here asking on how he can go here and these how to apply for a canadian working holiday visa appears. It says here the age. So im just wondering if his age can still participate?

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Mary Ann,

      30 or 35 years is the maximum age for working holiday programs. Your friend would have to look into the Express Entry program for PR or ask a company to sponsor him for a wotk permit.

  216. Lena says:

    Hi Gemma!

    I´m really stuck on a question, and any help would be very welcome! I am currently living in England as a visitor, but am a German citizen and still have a German address as well. I am filling in the forms for MyCic and am confused about question 9 “country where applying” of the form IMM1295. Should I enter my country of citizenship (Germany) here or England (because I am currently residing there)?
    I didn’t need to register in England (since I am living here for less than 6 months) and also have no visa of any kind, so I am not sure if I can apply from England. However, if I fill in Germany I don’t know what to fill in for the ‘from’ and ‘to’ dates :S

    Do you have any idea what to do?
    Thank you very much in advance for your help!

    Lena

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lena,

      This question is asking where you physically are at the time of application. It is no problem to say you are in the UK as a visitor.

  217. Eilidh says:

    Hi, this isn’t really an urgent query but I’m just curious. Does anyone know what the craic is with the waiting list (UK)? It goes down then it goes up again then up a bit more, down a bit, up etc etc. I thought maybe it was people with missing papers getting bumped from the quota to the waiting list, but I’ve no idea.

    Has anyone who was on the waiting list received a letter yet (and what tracking number)? I’m in Canada already which is fine but if I’m not going to be able to work I’ll need to start thinking about booking flights home soon before my money runs out!

    Cheers.

  218. Lewis says:

    My WHP is at 7 weeks today since i sent my final info, are people getting there 2015 WHP yet ?
    thank you

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lewis,

      Sadly, it appears that the 14 day limit for applicants to upload documents in Stage 2 has caused a massive backlog so the intended 42 day timeframe is not working. Last year, applicants had 90 days to upload these documents, which meant that the submitting of applications was more spread out. Some people are experiencing exceptionally long waiting times, up to 50/60 days. Some people however received their POEs very quickly, as quick as 7 days in some UK applicant’s examples.

    • Kat says:

      Hi Lewis, I got mine today 60 days after submitting

      • Lewis says:

        Thanks Gemma and Kat ,
        Kat I am from New Zealand,do you know if that will make any difference? Is your time going off working days or full week?hope to hear from you shortly

  219. Vikfee says:

    Hi Gemma,

    thank you for you previous help. I have a question about median wage in Alberta, Canada. Current median wage for Alberta is 25$/h. I sent application for WP unde IEC YP and the wage from my job offer is much lower than current median wage. Could that be problem when applying for LMIA-excempt work permit ? As far as I know, it is important to have an offered wage higher as a median wage at the time of application is, in order to get LMIA, but IEC is LMIA/excempt.

    Thank you.

    Vikfee

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Vikfee,

      The only rule I know about regarding the job role for the Young Professionals work permit is:

      “Starting in 2015, the job you are offered in Canada must be classified as a National Occupation Code (NOC) Skill Type Level 0, A, or B to be considered as contributing to your “professional development.”

  220. Monica says:

    Hi Gemma
    I created a Kompass account and submitted an application, however my WTN number is very high, therefore although I am on the waiting list I doubt I will get a chance this year. When the quota opens for 2016, will I need to submit a new application on Kompass, or will this one transfer over? Would I need to withdraw this application and then submit a new one for the 2016 application window? I just want to make sure I am ready so I can get a spot!
    Thanks!

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Monica,

      If the 2016 process remains the same as the 2015 one, applications do not transfer over. In fact, even Kompass accounts do not transfer over. You will need to create a new Kompass account AND apply for a CAL again next year.

  221. Lida says:

    Hi Gemma!
    You seemed to be really skilled about all the process.
    May I ask you, if the 42 days is only working days, or if those are meant also with weekends. I also heard, that some people get the PoE earlier than within 42 days.
    I already bought a fly ticket and the day I suppose to leave to Canada in 35th day of the process since I submitted the CIC application.
    Thank you for your answer
    Lida

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Lida,

      Whether the 42 days refers to working or non-working days is not specified by the CIC, but I believe it was originally intended to be 42 days with weekends. Sadly, it appears that the 14 day limit for applicants to upload documents in Stage 2 has caused a massive backlog so the intended 42 day timeframe is not working. Last year, applicants had 90 days to upload these documents, which meant that the submitting of applications was more spread out. Some people are experiencing exceptionally long waiting times, up to 50/60 days.

      • Lida says:

        Hi Gemma.
        Thank you a lot for your answer. I really hope that I won’t experience long waiting time as the other guys.
        I don’t want to bother you by stupid questions, but I would appreciate your opinion about what should I do now if I already have a fly ticket and I suppose to start at work on 37th day of process.
        Thanks again
        Lida

        • Gemma Gemma says:

          Hi Lida,

          I would still go ahead and fly but be prepared for some extra questions at the border to receive your visitor’s permit. Have proof of funds ready to show you can support yourself while waiting for your IEC work permit. Consider booking a refundable bus ticket out of Canada into the US to show you are travelling (just visiting) and are planning to leave. You will not be able to start your prearranged job until you have your IEC POE and activate it at the border.

  222. DOLUO says:

    hi Gemma
    Pleasei have a little problem and i ll like your opinion on what to do to fix this issue.I applied for an open work permit outside canada some couple of days ago.But after i made the application i discovered that i filled in the wrong place of birth on my Form.and on my biometrics form i had the wrong place of birth on it too.Please how can i correct this error.What do i have to do to fix this as i dont know if will have any effect on my application.Await your response.Thank you

  223. bayden says:

    Hi Gemma

    Just got a quick question for you,my working holiday was refused because i was told i didnt sent in my iec acceptance letter on time (13th of april) but i didnt receive my letter until the 17th exactly two weeks after i had requested one (3rd of april).Which also happened to be the day that they opened the New Zealand applicants,i submitted my full application on the 18th of april.Is there anything you can advise i do?or any advise would be greatly helpful thanks

  224. Steve says:

    Hi Gemma,
    Just a quick one I’ve sent all my stage 2 stuff on the second of April, and received a notification to say it had been received and started on the 4th of April. Now I havnt had a thing since then should I be worried or should I contact them or just keep waiting.
    Steve

  225. Rob Arnold says:

    Hi Gemma.

    Yesterday I received my Poe. So everyone is aware, mine took 71 days after stage 2. So everyone be prepared to wait!
    I do have a question to though. I will of course land with 2 years travel insurance to obtain a max length of stay but is it worth once getting into Canada looking at a more Canadian health based insurance to cover routine medical costs? I remember going over 2 years ago and it costing me 100CAD just to see a doctor….. Travel insurance wouldn’t cover routine visits not my wife’s kidney stone at that time.
    Any input? Thanks

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Rob,

      It’s completely up to your personal situation and/or employment when you’re in Canada. In some provinces (such as Ontario), health care coverage for residents is free after a waiting time (usually 3 months). Prescriptions are usually however not covered under any circumstances. In BC, health coverage (MSP) costs $72 a month. I was not actually even eligible for it while I was on my working holidays in BC due to my seasonal job. It was however never an issue for me – at time of writing, I’ve now been in Canada for three years, eight months and never been to the doctor.

  226. Diana says:

    I only waited 3 weeks and received my poe thats madness some people are waiting up to 71 days :O my boyfriend is irish and he’s still waiting on his visa he’s on his 49 the day today :/

  227. Micheal says:

    Hi Gemma

    Just received confirmation of my POE from CIC from round 2 of the UK applications.

    The problem I have is that my POE only confirms one year and I had been lead to believe it was for 2 years?

    I have been reading on your forum that applicants are having trouble getting the 2 years when coming through immigration but this seems to be the first occasion were the POE is short a year.

    I’m conscious that the processing times are extremely slow and I may not get a response for quite some time if I did query their decision, and to be honest I am just glad to have got it back after waiting 10 weeks for it, but, I feel I should be entitled to the 2 years?

    Any thoughts on why this may be or what actions I could take? Much appreciated.

    • Gemma Gemma says:

      Hi Michael,

      If your Port of Entry expires a year from now it is correct. The Port of Entry is simply a letter to the border official to explain that you have been approved for the IEC work permit. The expiry date on it relates to how long you have before you n